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Challenge to CIT

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aaahhh, I get it now.
Maybe someone can show them a video or provide eyewitness testimony of how that is done. That is as long as they don't try to become fathers by implementing the acts of the minority in the videos in which the orifice is even further 'north'.


Corroborated eyewitness testimony. So they can have a massive evidence!
 
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aaahhh, I get it now.
Maybe someone can show them a video or provide eyewitness testimony of how that is done. That is as long as they don't try to become fathers by implementing the acts of the minority in the videos in which the orifice is even further 'north'.

Now now...we all know that none of this could ever take place without one of them actually LEAVING their mother's basement. If having scientific proof that the US government was in on 9/11 isn't enough to get them outside...nothing is.

Speaking of which, how's that going, guys? Who have you contacted?
 
And subsequently bans you and does nothing to Dom.

No joke.

Aldo was banned from the previous forum, and has been suspended 2 or 3 times from the current incarnation for offenses much more off-key than saying that someone needs Paxil. He's sent me 3 PMs just trying to start crap (all of which reported).. and the admins just look the other way because they are that desperate for people who are even kind-of on their side.
 
Okay PB&J, totally O/T, but why do you have the logic table for an AND gate as your sig?
 
Has the CIT ever explained why the conspirators would need to pull off such an elaborate scheme just to make people think a 757 hit the pentagon when they needed to get rid of a plane either way?
 
Has the CIT ever explained why the conspirators would need to pull off such an elaborate scheme just to make people think a 757 hit the pentagon when they needed to get rid of a plane either way?

Ahhhhh but 'truthers' never have to explain the lack of logic in the scenarios they propose.

'Truther' Cop Out No.1 - The evil NWO intentionally make it appear overly complex and illogical so that the sheeple don't see the obvious signs of conspiracy

'Truther' Cop Out No.2 - The evil NWO intentionally make it appear overly complex and illogical because they want you to know that they did it

'Truther' Cop Out No.3 - The evil NWO moves in mysterious ways.
 
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Has the CIT ever explained why the conspirators would need to pull off such an elaborate scheme just to make people think a 757 hit the pentagon when they needed to get rid of a plane either way?
Okay, I fess up. Basically it was just showboating infront of our girlfriends. Just showing our muscle and how nobody can touch us. Why get rid of just one plane, when we can get away with two? Frankly, these days, anybody can do one... Remember, we also planted all those explosives in the towers just to speed up the collapse by 1.2 seconds. Heck, we even sneaked back into the WTC7, right under firemen's noses, with fires raging all around, planted those explosive thermöte devices (it is ö, right? I forget which vowel we were on at the time), got out in time to pose for a photo with the building collapsing in the background. Heck we even let those poor ridiculed patriots live and spread truths about us, just to show how really nobody can touch us! But it gets somewhat boring, sneaking into Craig and Aldo's homes when they're away, rearranging their furniture, then putting it back into place just before they come back. Pay's good though...

Speaking of C&A - TC, no word on my images?
 
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Reheat - Craig still thinks you're wrong

craig said:
The calculations are completely removed from the evidence which has the plane already on a constant descending banking around the airport.

So, apparently, this loop reported by Steve Chaconas is their key now. Supposedly the plane was already in a decending loop, which somehow would allow it to defy the laws of aerodynamics.

It doesn't appear to me that any maneuver prior to Paik's location could possibly affect the plane's ability to perform the maneuvers after that point. Your thoughts?
 
Has the CIT ever explained why the conspirators would need to pull off such an elaborate scheme just to make people think a 757 hit the pentagon when they needed to get rid of a plane either way?

Well its because,,,, actually I forget, but I'm pretty sure some convoluted reasoning was given by someone along with the "we don't need to explain that" line from others.

I another thread there is the contention by Christopher 7 that the steel at the WTC was illegally removed and THAT is why there is no evidence of explosives having benn involved in the collapse of WTC 7 specifically.

So we have Fetzer, A.Jones, S.Jones, Gage and others who say that the removal ond disposal of the steel was illegal. We have CIT saying that evidence was planted (ie tampered with) at the Pentagon and the CIT and Killtown saying the same for Shankesville.
Although evidence tampering is a very serious crime no law or justice agency in the USA has laid charges against anyone nor has the above noted people petitioned and agency or court concerning this. On the other hand Moragn Reynolds did ask for, and receive, his day in court concerning his contention of illegal evidence tampering at the WTC. Specifically his contention that the videos of the planes hitting the towers were faked.

Given that it should be much easier to prove tampering in the case of the WTC 7 steel, it was after all actually disposed of, one would think that this would have made it into a courtroom, but it hasn't.

Given the certainty with which the CIT make their contentions it would also seem that this would have made it into a courtroom as well, but no, it hasn't. they are adamant that, for eg., Lloyd England is lieing and even more so that all the lamp poles could not possibly have been knocked down by the plane.
 
Reheat - Craig still thinks you're wrong



So, apparently, this loop reported by Steve Chaconas is their key now. Supposedly the plane was already in a decending loop, which somehow would allow it to defy the laws of aerodynamics.

It doesn't appear to me that any maneuver prior to Paik's location could possibly affect the plane's ability to perform the maneuvers after that point. Your thoughts?
Craig is just waving his hands and avoiding the issue. If there is a path, or a set of paths that he contends would allow the plane to be over Paik, wings level, anywhere over the Navy Annex at any bank angle at all, NoC also wings level, impacting the Pentagon in the correct location and at a speed that all witnesses would describe as "fast" then he should demonstrate it. Instead he just keeps guessing and being proven wrong.

Rather than look into the technical probability of any path the CIT instead choose what parts of eyewitness statements they wish to claim are infallable.
 
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Now would be a good time review the ten-page thread (I wrongly predicted it would be a short one) devoted to establishing exactly how many people witnessed a flyover of the Pentagon. Notice that Lyte Trip tap dances furiously, tells a blizzard of outright lies, and in the end, we understand that ABSOLUTELY NOBODY WITNESSED THE IMAGINARY FLYOVER.

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=88127&highlight=Witnesses+Flyover
CIT, upset that light has been shining on their "dark ages" version of hunting for the witches who did 9/11. Their theories are dropping like flys now learning witness statements are not "hard evidence" except when showing people their conclusion are flawed. Catch22 lives on due to faulty logic and real bad investigating techniques.
Dom said: Science and math to disprove the eyewitness accounts obtained by CIT.
No Dom, your eyewitness accounts and physics (science & math) were used to disprove your non-path. You have no path now it was, destroyed, dustified (judy wood), evaporated by the light of physics; score one for Sir Isaac Newton and people who can listen to your witnesses on your products and interpret them correctly.


Dom lacks basic logic. What causes lack of logic?

http://s1.zetaboards.com/LooseChangeForums/single/?p=59998&t=191706

CIT and p4t have failed after a long time to correct 11.2 G super math error and to fix their flawed flight-path, they dropped flight-path and have to go back to pure fantasy.
 
Reheat - Craig still thinks you're wrong

So, apparently, this loop reported by Steve Chaconas is their key now. Supposedly the plane was already in a decending loop, which somehow would allow it to defy the laws of aerodynamics.

It doesn't appear to me that any maneuver prior to Paik's location could possibly affect the plane's ability to perform the maneuvers after that point. Your thoughts?

Well, everybody knows that if the roulette wheel comes up six straight reds, it's much more likely to show a black on the next spin.
 
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A tip for those arguing (it's no longer a legitimate debate) with the CIT loons in other locations. I know it's hard to see through all of the stupid, but sometimes things just jump out at you.

One of their arguments is that Steve Chaconas, the Potomac fishing guide, saw a COMMERCIAL AIRLINER as it looped East of the Potomac. They have argued endlessly that he could not have confused what he saw with the C-130 on a very similar flight path. It was definitely a COMMERCIAL AIRLINER according to their irrefutable, Independently Verified, and Scientifically Corroborated witness.

OK, was there another mysterious aircraft swap by the time that SAME AIRCRAFT (according to Steve Chaconas) approached the Pentagon for the "flyover". So, it wasn't an unknown aircraft at all. Another of THEIR WITNESSES, Steve Chancos, told us what it was. I believe that makes 2-3 who have indicated the type of aircraft they saw.
 
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