CCW holder killed reaching for ID.

[Reactor drone]

Not the first time the police have shot someone for getting their ID when asked but fatal in this case. It will be interesting to see if the officer had a body camera recording this. He seems a little panicky to be in the field with a gun.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...olis-cop-shot-four-times-reached-license.html

 

[Samson]

The old busted tail light and you end up dead trick. I think there is a business opportunity for a fail safe vehicle light system.

 

[Aepervius]

I wonder if people asking for more gun in the hand of the population, realize that it will make such incident with cops far more often. Let me guess they will ask for more training for the cops.

 

[lionking]

More disgusting police behaviour.

 

[Sideroxylon]

Vlogging the drama is a priority over first aid these days.

 

[ponderingturtle]

Isn't the correct away to phrase this for the many "police shoot thug with gun"?

 

[Tsukasa Buddha]

Vlogging the drama is a priority over first aid these days.

The officer was telling her to keep her hands where they were.

 

[Jim_MDP]

The officer was telling her to keep her hands where they were.

That short clip of him... he's the twitchiest officer I've seen in a while.
I wouldn't be BookFacing it, but I doubt I'd risk reaching anywhere near the armed guy.

Cops deal with CCW drivers every day... what was this guy's problem?

He seems a little panicky to be in the field with a gun.

He does indeed.

 

[lionking]

The officer was telling her to keep her hands where they were.

Why on earth was she handcuffed? Is this SOP for partners of people murdered by police?

 

[ponderingturtle]

That short clip of him... he's the twitchiest officer I've seen in a while.
I wouldn't be BookFacing it, but I doubt I'd risk reaching anywhere near the armed guy.

Cops deal with CCW drivers every day... what was this guy's problem?

He was the wrong skin color to have a legitimate CCW.

 

[paulhutch]

From the linked articel:

Reynolds says to her Facebook viewers that Castile was licensed to carry a weapon and told the officer he had a firearm as he reached for his wallet and ID.

Bad idea, telling a cop at a stop that you have a gun while you are reaching for something the cop can't see. A more experienced cop would likely have told him to stop reaching and get out of the car. It's far safer to tell the cop either before or after, but not while, reaching for your ID.

 

[The Don]

From the linked articel:


Bad idea, telling a cop at a stop that you have a gun while you are reaching for something the cop can't see. A more experienced cop would likely have told him to stop reaching and get out of the car. It's far safer to tell the cop either before or after, but not while, reaching for your ID.

Then I'm not sure what he should have done.....

Not complying with the request for ID may have ended up with him being shot.

Failing to say that he had a weapon which was subsequently found or glimpsed may have ended up with him being shot.

And clearly what he did wasn't a good idea either.

 

[lionking]

Then I'm not sure what he should have done.....

Not complying with the request for ID may have ended up with him being shot.

Failing to say that he had a weapon which was subsequently found or glimpsed may have ended up with him being shot.

And clearly what he did wasn't a good idea either.

Exactly.

Now this has nothing to do with the proliferation of CCW? You know, something unknown to comparable First World countries? Nah, of course not. Heaven forbid. Guns put some gigantic force field around gun holders which make them safe. Indeed immortal.

 

[ponderingturtle]

Then I'm not sure what he should have done.....

Not complying with the request for ID may have ended up with him being shot.

Failing to say that he had a weapon which was subsequently found or glimpsed may have ended up with him being shot.

And clearly what he did wasn't a good idea either.

His mistake was thinking he could have a concealed carry permit while black.

 

[lionking]

His mistake was thinking he could have a concealed carry permit while black.

No doubt.

 

[Sherman Bay]

Always shoot first. You'll have plenty of time to analyze the situation later.

 

[paulhutch]

Then I'm not sure what he should have done.....

My third sentence.

 

[Sideroxylon]

The officer was telling her to keep her hands where they were.

I'd like to think I would be clearly narrating my intentions to provide aid and to hell with the consequences.

 

[applecorped]

From the linked articel:


Bad idea, telling a cop at a stop that you have a gun while you are reaching for something the cop can't see. A more experienced cop would likely have told him to stop reaching and get out of the car. It's far safer to tell the cop either before or after, but not while, reaching for your ID.

this


for some though the cop was part of an execution squad against black people (otherwise known as thugs to some around here)

 

[lionking]

this


for some though the cop was part of an execution squad against black people (otherwise known as thugs to some around here)

You of all people should recognise deliberate hyperbole when you see it.

The police here were poorly trained cowboys.

I've said it time and time again. The biggest problem with policing in the US is the vast number of police forces, each with different standards of recruitment, training and policy setting. A "force" of a hundred police can't have the same standards as the Met, the RCMP or state forces of 15,000+ in Australia.

Small forces have small mindsets and poor training. Leading to stupid events like this. Amalgamate US forces. Have state forces. Learn from others. For one of the very rare times.