Case for Christ by an Atheist and evidence for God.

[edge]

Whom should I believe? I'll believe the experts.

Do you have a more recent update?

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4,537,000,000
- '' 70,000,000
4,467,000,000

Closer and closer to 6,000 years.

The article had a more recent date as I recall and was on a science type-site.
These were the experts.
It predated the Cambrian explosion.

 

[Mirrorglass]

The article did? I'm not sure, but I think that might make it a bit out of date.

 

[Complexity]

Religious people aren't the only ones moving the goal posts.

I understood it just as was presented.

And... is all you do is bitch?

Perhaps you should avoid many most of the internet sites that you visit, because you read an incredible amount of wrong and silly.

Seriously, edge - quit bringing all of this drivel to our attention.

If you want to pollute your own brain with it, do so, but be courteous and leave that garbage outside the door when you come here.

 

[TeaRowz]

Well, it seems that Edge got maybe as much fame (at least in this thread) that amounted to as much of a demonstration of ignorance as did the Rev. Terry Jones show by threats of burning the Moslem 'book of truth'. Those who are made aware of their faulty thinking do eventually back down. If not, the results of faulty thinking can be disastrous.

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And yes, I understand that this might reopen this thread to Edge's idiocy. But I kind of miss it.

 

[edge]

Well, it seems that Edge got maybe as much fame (at least in this thread) that amounted to as much of a demonstration of ignorance as did the Rev. Terry Jones show by threats of burning the Moslem 'book of truth'. Those who are made aware of their faulty thinking do eventually back down. If not, the results of faulty thinking can be disastrous.

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And yes, I understand that this might reopen this thread to Edge's idiocy. But I kind of miss it.

Why do you miss it? All of us need to re-think what we believe in.
Evidence can be twisted into what ever you want it to be, do you get that?

 

[tsig]

Why do you miss it? All of us need to re-think what we believe in.
Evidence can be twisted into what ever you want it to be, do you get that?

So the world is nothing but cunningly devised fables?

 

[edge]

So the world is nothing but cunningly devised fables?

Maybe some, but lots of deceptions and lies would be more correct, or do you not see that too and not just by religious folk.

To say this TeaRowz, that I am like the " Rev. Terry Jones show", is deception when atheists are the ones along with others that are more like him, I don't put up billboards to aggravate people.
If this is offensive to you then maybe you shouldn’t speak on it, there is always about or at least 1% of evidence in any category of phenomenon that we can’t explain away including religions or beliefs.
Just because you do not see it doesn’t mean anything to some one who has or that it or things like phenomena don’t happen.
In a million years you could not persuade me or convince me that this isn’t a Spiritual world.[b/]

 

[gambling_cruiser]

Closed mind?

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In a million years you could not persuade me or convince me that this isn’t a Spiritual world.[b/]

You seem to be proud of your closed mind, aren't you?

 

[mactonite]

Ill see your lesser extent and raise you a truth. Are not the laws of christianty based on our faith all pointed at something good. So why try so hard to knock a good thing. I am just curious.

Here is a video by outspoken atheist Bill Maher regarding a secular view on the harms of religion. You put religion in the hands of an everyday person, it can be beneficial. You give it to someone in power, it can be catastrophic. Just my thought.

http://yoism.reality-movement.org/media/Religulous.wmv

 

[paximperium]

Maybe some, but lots of deceptions and lies would be more correct, or do you not see that too and not just by religious folk.

What's your process for determining if a claim is true or false?

 

[Foster Zygote]

I don't put up billboards to aggravate people.

Do you think that all atheists got together at the Official Atheist Club meeting and unanimously voted in favor of that billboard? And why is it "aggravating"? Because it expresses ideas that some people find offensive?

 

[Resume]

All of us need to re-think what we believe in.

In a million years you could not persuade me or convince me that this isn’t a Spiritual world.[b/]

Teensy problem here.

 

[Nonpareil]

In a million years you could not persuade me or convince me that this isn’t a Spiritual world.[b/]

And this is the fundamental issue with all the discussions that you try to have here, edge.

You aren't here to discuss. You aren't willing to examine your own beliefs. You are merely here to say to others, "you should believe as I do."

This is not what a discussion is supposed to be.

 

[tsig]

Maybe some, but lots of deceptions and lies would be more correct, or do you not see that too and not just by religious folk.

To say this TeaRowz, that I am like the " Rev. Terry Jones show", is deception when atheists are the ones along with others that are more like him, I don't put up billboards to aggravate people.
If this is offensive to you then maybe you shouldn’t speak on it, there is always about or at least 1% of evidence in any category of phenomenon that we can’t explain away including religions or beliefs.
Just because you do not see it doesn’t mean anything to some one who has or that it or things like phenomena don’t happen.
In a million years you could not persuade me or convince me that this isn’t a Spiritual world.[b/]

Well I haven't got a million years and in my 65 years I've found that whenever someone started talking Spiritual it's a good idea to hang on to your wallet.

 

[edge]

Well I haven't got a million years and in my 65 years I've found that whenever someone started talking Spiritual it's a good idea to hang on to your wallet.

You're right; you only might have 66 left as a non-believer.
I wouldn’t want anything you sit on….

What's your process for determining if a claim is true or false?

Time and outcome of what a claim is.

You aren't here to discuss. You aren't willing to examine your own beliefs. You are merely here to say to others, "you should believe as I do."

As far as I can tell most believe the same in general, even Christians, but we all believe slightly differently and some drastically differently and in here not at all.

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Originally Posted by edge
All of us need to re-think what we believe in.
Originally Posted by edge
In a million years you could not persuade me or convince me that this isn’t a Spiritual world.[b/]
Teensy problem here.

I have seen some of your points through all this and have changed my mind on stances I have had in the past, basically back to some of my skeptical reasoning on certain issues.

Everything in this universe is about change and moving forward through time, we are energy and energy users, we are all on our way to somewhere as we are changed, your energy is going to go some where, your flesh, your electrical self.

In the end if you are right about us, (death), then not one thing we do matters at all, this is how the world is set up, why people who get power start wars and not are not worried about totally destroying themselves and the world, to gain power and riches, when you’re dead nothing that you have done or caused matters except to survivors.

If they’re really survivors.

Even if skeptics are right the end of pain that leads to nothing is a relief, is it not, but how can you enjoy that?



In the end we are plant fertilizers and they are in charge they are beings of light.

 

[Nonpareil]

In the end if you are right about us, (death), then not one thing we do matters at all, this is how the world is set up, why people who get power start wars and not are not worried about totally destroying themselves and the world, to gain power and riches, when you’re dead nothing that you have done or caused matters except to survivors.

If they’re really survivors.

Even if skeptics are right the end of pain that leads to nothing is a relief, is it not, but how can you enjoy that?

Why wouldn't you be able to enjoy that?

The universe doesn't care about us. That doesn't mean that we don't care about us. That our lives ultimately make no difference to the rest of existence doesn't make them any less important in our eyes.

There may be no objective definition for "fun", but there sure is a subjective one.

 

[dafydd]

 

[Twiler]

In the end if you are right about us, (death), then not one thing we do matters at all, this is how the world is set up, why people who get power start wars and not are not worried about totally destroying themselves and the world, to gain power and riches, when you’re dead nothing that you have done or caused matters except to survivors.
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Why does something have to matter forever? Why isn't mattering NOW enough?