Captain Burlingame from Flight 77's daughter passed away in a fire

To any local people... can you update us if any more news comes of the investigation?

It's not really a significant enough event to make international headlines, and it sounds like there could potentially be more to this story than we have so far. I'd like to find out more if it turns out there's more to know.

If you go to Yahoo News and search for "Wendy Burlingame", it will give you the option to get regular email alerts when that term pops up in a news story. I've already got it set up for that with her and "Dylan Avery" and "Loose Change" as well as about a dozen other keywords. You'd be surprised how many stories are written every day about "loose change" being stolen from a car.
 
These guys are repulsive. Period.



What you should do is stage a little guerrilla theater at the taping of the debate.

Get four or five guys to come in and comandeer the room with box cutters threatening that they have bombs under their jackets. Let's see Dylan take 'em down!
Way to get shot by security and/or police, more like....
 
http://loosechange911.blogspot.com/2006/12/rip.html

Dylan Avery said:
R.I.P.

Wendy Burlingame, the daughter of Charles Frank Burlingame III, the pilot of Flight 77, passed away yesterday, due to a fire that investigators, not us, are calling suspicious.

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Daughter of 9/11 Flight Pilot Is Found Dead After a Fire
NY Times

Wendy Burlingame, 32, was discovered by firefighters in a short hallway between the kitchen and the bedroom of her 10th-floor apartment where the four-alarm fire began, said Edward DeFazio, the Hudson County prosecutor.

Mr. DeFazio said the fire, which law enforcement officials are calling suspicious, began shortly after midnight in the apartment Ms. Burlingame shared with her companion and was still under investigation, as was the cause of Ms. Burlingame’s death. No one else was injured in the fire, Mr. DeFazio said.

Shortly before the fire erupted, Mr. Rojas said, there were “louder noises than usual” coming from the apartment upstairs, “like somebody running around up there, like somebody doing something up there in a rush.”

Then he said he heard a thud — “like somebody dropped something”— and three or four minutes later the building’s fire alarm sounded. Mr. Rojas said that within minutes his apartment filled with smoke. He then safely left the building.

Fire claims life of daughter of airline pilot killed on 9/11
Newsday

Wendy Burlingame's death was being investigated as a suspicious death, according to Hudson County Prosecutor Edward DeFazio.

Her live-in boyfriend, whose name was not released by authorities, was also in the apartment when the fire started shortly before midnight Monday, investigators said.

According to investigators, the boyfriend told them that he and Burlingame had tried to extinguish the fire with water from a sink. When tried to flee, the boyfriend made it into the hallway, but accidentally shut and locked the front door before realizing that Burlingame was not right behind him. He wasn't able to get back in.

As firefighters rushed into the 44-story building to put out the blaze, the building resident assigned as fire warden for the night found the boyfriend outside the apartment door, visibly shaken, and led him to safety.

Blaze kills daughter of 9/11 pilot
DAILY NEWS STAFF WRITERS

Tragedy struck a 9/11 family for a second time when the daughter of one of the hijacked pilots was killed in a suspicious blaze in New Jersey yesterday.

Wendy Burlingame, 32, and her two dogs died when flames ripped through her 10th-floor apartment in Guttenberg, Hudson County.

Burlingame was the daughter of American Airlines pilot Charles (Chick) Burlingame, whose plane crashed into the Pentagon on Sept. 11, 2001.

"It's just an extreme tragedy," said Tim Sumner, who knew Wendy Burlingame from the 9/11 Families survivor group. "It's an amazing blow to that family."

Wendy Burlingame's aunt, Debra Burlingame, a member of the World Trade Center Memorial Foundation board, was too heartbroken to speak last night.

The fire broke out about 12:30 a.m. in the Galaxy Towers apartment Burlingame shared with her fiancé, Kevin Roderick.

Neighbors said Burlingame moved into the apartment overlooking the Hudson River about a month ago. Roderick escaped the fire.

Firefighters battled the stubborn blaze for about three hours before bringing it under control. Firefighters found Burlingame's body in a hallway between the kitchen and a bedroom, investigators said.

"It is suspicious at this point because the cause and origin have not been established," Hudson County Prosecutor Edward De Fazio said.

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Now, first and foremost, let me clarify that this is a terrible tragedy, and in no way, shape, or form do we wish any disrespect upon Wendy Burlingame, her late father Charles, or her aunt Debra, who has had some choice words for us before.

Second, we would like to clarify a little something that, of course, SLC is pushing front and center.

Someone by the username wendyb posted in the old Loose Change forums back in July.

Here is the post:

http://img47.imageshack.us/img47/7505/loosechange7gm.jpg

However, if you check the account details of WendyB, this is what you come up with:

I.P. addresses used: 85.234.144.XXX
Total Cumulative Posts 2 ( 0.00% of total forum posts )
Posts per day 0
Joined 12-July 06
Last Activity: Sep 4 2006, 12:14 PM
User's local time Dec 6 2006, 04:50 PM

85.234.144.XXX comes back to:

person: Matthew Munson
address: Euroconnex Networks LLP,
BlueSquare House,
Priors Way,
Maidenhead, UK
phone: +44 870 744 1700

So, Wendy Burlingame allegedly made two posts from the United Kingdom, and never posted again, but remained in the United Kingdom until September 4th, 2006, where she last logged in? And since relocated to an apartment in New Jersey?

Again, no disrespect is intended towards Wendy, or the Burlingame family. But unless it can be proven that Wendy was in the United Kingdom from July to September, then we have to assume someone was impersonating Wendy.

No one has ever claimed that Charles was "involved" with the terrorists. Au contraire, Charles Burlingame was perhaps one of the finest people you could ever meet.

In fact, I'll leave it to my good buddy Russ Pickering to sum things up.

Rest in peace, Wendy and Charles.
 
What do you all think of the extremely shabby treatment of Christian Adams in the movie UA 93 then? Since you're all so concerned for the victims, do you think Silke Adams would be justified in suing the last dime out of Greengrass and United Artists?
 
What do you all think of the extremely shabby treatment of Christian Adams in the movie UA 93 then? Since you're all so concerned for the victims, do you think Silke Adams would be justified in suing the last dime out of Greengrass and United Artists?

Although there have been many articles written about how unfair that characterization was, nobody to my knowledge has checked with Silke over whether she was unhappy with it. The film is a little unclear exactly what was going on with his (apparent) character. Certainly his initial appearance, where he suggests that they cooperate with the hijackers, is hardly offensive. This was (as the CT crowd always forgets) considered SOP for dealing with hijackers prior to 9-11.

It is only the brief scene where he appears to be either warning the hijackers or at least making a fierce argument against storming the cockpit that is controversial, and that was so brief I wasn't even sure what was going on when I saw the movie in the theatre.

I thought it was a mistake for them to fictionalize anything in the film, and that was one of only two problems I saw (the other was not including the transmission that Jarrah made about a bomb on board that was overheard by the air traffic controllers).
 
If the fire were part of a conspiracy, officials would not have called it suspicious. It would not have looked "suspicious." So we almost certainly have no conspiracy.

Truthers are so weird.
 
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@DYLAN AVERY:

It could have been indeed Mrs.
Burlingame, >>>Master Researcher<<< :

http://85.234.144.215/
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person: Matthew Munson
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DYLAN AVERY said:
http://loosechange911.blogspot.com/2006/12/rip.html

However, if you check the account details of WendyB, this is what you come up with:

I.P. addresses used: 85.234.144.XXX
Total Cumulative Posts 2 ( 0.00% of total forum posts )
Posts per day 0
Joined 12-July 06
Last Activity: Sep 4 2006, 12:14 PM
User's local time Dec 6 2006, 04:50 PM

85.234.144.XXX comes back to:

person: Matthew Munson
address: Euroconnex Networks LLP,
BlueSquare House,
Priors Way,
Maidenhead, UK
phone: +44 870 744 1700

So, Wendy Burlingame allegedly made two posts from the United Kingdom, and never posted again, but remained in the United Kingdom until September 4th, 2006, where she last logged in? And since relocated to an apartment in New Jersey?

Again, no disrespect is intended towards Wendy, or the Burlingame family. But unless it can be proven that Wendy was in the United Kingdom from July to September, then we have to assume someone was impersonating Wendy.

No one has ever claimed that Charles was "involved" with the terrorists. Au contraire, Charles Burlingame was perhaps one of the finest people you could ever meet.

In fact, I'll leave it to my good buddy Russ Pickering to sum things up.

[RULE8]!
 
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I love Killtown's thought process. From his blog:
BREAKING: Daughter of alleged Flight 77 pilot found dead from “suspicious” apartment fire just 3 days after Doubletree video released. Apt complex never had a fire related incident before.
How many buildings in Jersey, apartment or otherwise, have never had a fire related incident before? Is this to mean that if a building has never caught fire before that it is impervious to flames?

I should tell my landlord that the fire extinguishers and smoke alarms in my building really aren't necessary.
 
I love Killtown's thought process. From his blog:

How many buildings in Jersey, apartment or otherwise, have never had a fire related incident before? Is this to mean that if a building has never caught fire before that it is impervious to flames?

I should tell my landlord that the fire extinguishers and smoke alarms in my building really aren't necessary.

Oh God! Killtown must be kidding. :boggled:
 
I love Killtown's thought process. From his blog:

How many buildings in Jersey, apartment or otherwise, have never had a fire related incident before? Is this to mean that if a building has never caught fire before that it is impervious to flames?

I should tell my landlord that the fire extinguishers and smoke alarms in my building really aren't necessary.
This be the same reasoning that GW Bush used in one of the 2000 debates, when, in response to a question about health insurance for children, he remarked that, of course, children who weren't sick didn't need health care.

:eek:

And regarding Dylan Avery's slander of a woman barely cold in her grave, methinks one's ISP can route through many far-and-wide places while one sits comfortably at home. Pah. Rule8 indeed.
 
Since you still have access over there, please report him through the invisionfree forum abuse link. What he is doing is a direct violation of their (LC's) ToS with invisionfree.

It´s not my intention to grass about him to invisionfree,
beside the fact that the message of him was at their
blog, not their forum.
 
It´s not my intention to grass about him to invisionfree,
beside the fact that the message of him was at their
blog, not their forum.

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Fire is being labeled "suspect for the reason that the origin has not been
established , not because of any foul play. Live not too far from there and
know people in North Hudson FD (which covers that part of Hudson County)
and fire photograpers who photograph fire scenes. If anything funny going
on will probably hear about it. Till then looks like nothing but tragic accident
 
Candle Likely Culprit in Blaze

According to this story:

The fire "started under the bed," said Hudson County Prosecutor Edward De Fazio, adding the burns were consistent with that of a candle.

And:

De Fazio said Burlingame's death was not considered a homicide, but it had not been ruled out, adding: "Alcohol was likely involved." It was unclear which of the couple had been drinking.
 
I love Killtown's thought process. From his blog:

How many buildings in Jersey, apartment or otherwise, have never had a fire related incident before? Is this to mean that if a building has never caught fire before that it is impervious to flames?

I should tell my landlord that the fire extinguishers and smoke alarms in my building really aren't necessary.

My apartment building also never had a fire related incident before... Should I start to worry?

:boxedin:
 
The wind really blows hard up here on my hill. Last winter it blew over a tree that had never blown over before.
 
:(

If the fire were part of a conspiracy, officials would not have called it suspicious. It would not have looked "suspicious." So we almost certainly have no conspiracy.

Truthers are so weird.

Exactly, Perry. If it was suspected arson, they would have called it 'suspected arson'. If it was suspected murder, they would have called it 'suspected murder'.

If you don't know exactly how a death happened, the death is 'suspicious'. I work for a Coroner's Court, and even when it's obvious it's suicide - when a known sufferer of depression and attempter of suicide has written 3 suicide notes and placed them next to themselves, and overdosed on tablets and left the packets next to themselves - it's still classified as 'suspicious' until a post-mortem, toxicology and police report have been done and a Coroner's finding has been made.

Loose Change Forum, September 4, 2006
...
Jack D:
No hijackers.
flight 77, if indeed it took off according to BTS data, was co-opted, or co-erced, into the war game -- either landed prematurely, crashed, shot down, or towed via the airborne AWACs planes that were airborne that day (out of tinker AFB and Omaha)


wendyb (apparently Wendy Burlingame):
"How can posters like Merc, Russell Pickering and Killtown sleep at night? How far will you go with your theories to take down a man who did nothing but serve his country and be a great father his whole life?

My father was in on it? I dare you people to make these allegations about my father to my family and I on 9-11 at Ground Zero. Make these allegations to our face.

You people make me sick."


I notice JohnDoeX has excelled himself at jumping to conclusions yet again.

Wow... this is unimaginable.

Someone posting as Wendy responded to me over at Loose Change awhile back. Not sure if it was really her as i was having a spat with many different JREFers at once and it was a time when they were in their prime of making all kinds of sock puppets so i wouldnt put it past one of them to pose as Wendy.. But just in case it was her, i did send her my condolences and told her one of the main reasons we are investigating 9/11 is for the families and if she could contact me so we could talk about why we are investigating and that we mean no disrespect. That was the only post which came from someone who said she was Wendy and never heard a thing again. We were discussing The Common Strategy prior to 9/11 and how i dont know any pilot who would give up their aircraft (as suggested by Barbara Olsen to her husband Ted, via cell phone when she said all passengers, including the pilots were hearded to the back of the plane with a boxcutter). Deb Burlingame agrees that Charles would not have given up his plane without being 'eliminated'. So we are still researching this issue.

However, i cant fathom not making sure your girlfriend is right behind you (let alone IN FRONT OF YOU!).. not to mention not being able to get back in the apt. A friend of mine just recently broke his ribs breaking down his own door cause he locked himself out. I couldnt image leaving a live person inside a burning building that you just left.. especially a girlfriend. I hope they get to the bottom of it and i hope the boyfriend is known world-wide as the new 'George' (as in when George from Seinfeld ran out of the burning building first..)

Rest in peace and Godspeed Wendy.
http://z9.invisionfree.com/Pilots_For_Truth/index.php?showtopic=2646
(Emphasis mine.)

Give with one hand, take away with the other, JDX. Whether it was Wendy Burlinghame or not, you know the points the poster made were valid, and you responded to her and tried to weasel your way out of your embarrassment, yet here you are yet again, casting aspersions without any evidence. When will you learn?
 

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