Captain Burlingame from Flight 77's daughter passed away in a fire

[CFLarsen]

And some people still say that false beliefs are not harmful?

 

[njslim]

Saw on the SCREW LOOSE CHANGE forum posts from how uber nutter
LYTE TRIP has been abusing CEE CEE LYLES, one the flight attendents
on United 93 . Doing "the old cell phones dont work on airplanes" schtick
been mocking her last message to her husband left on the answering machine

Hoping to get 5 minutes with a Louisville slugger and some of these clowns!!!

 

[realitybites]

Her boyfriend, who either is or was military, escaped the fire. CTers are gonna eat that one up.

Absolutely tragic though.... My heart goes out to her family.

 

[chillzero]

Her boyfriend, who either is or was military, escaped the fire. CTers are gonna eat that one up.

Absolutely tragic though.... My heart goes out to her family.

I think it's the way her boyfriend escaped that what is being 'eaten up'. According to the report above he claims to have accidentally locked her in the fire filled hallway, and was unable to unlock the door to let her out.

Now, I want to make it clear that I am neither casting aspersions nor building a defence. I am merely passing on what I have read. I am not making any judgement without further information.

 

[realitybites]

So now that the CTers have started postulating that "maybe she was about to blow the whistle", I wonder if our buddy Lyte should start fearing for his life?

He's about to blow the lid off this whole thing right?

 

[fuelair]

Saw on the SCREW LOOSE CHANGE forum posts from how uber nutter
LYTE TRIP has been abusing CEE CEE LYLES, one the flight attendents
on United 93 . Doing "the old cell phones dont work on airplanes" schtick
been mocking her last message to her husband left on the answering machine

Hoping to get 5 minutes with a Louisville slugger and some of these clowns!!!

Ah yes, a person who recognizes the value of hitting a pop fly for good!! I like it!!!!

 

[Darth Rotor]

It happened yesterday.

Russ, do you have any evidence that Dylan Avery and Corey Rowe, and Alex Jones, did not conspire to set her apartment on fire? They have a motive to silence her, since she opposes their (delusional) version of her father's actions on 9-11-01, and has reason to sue them for injurious libel and slander of her father.

Just asking.

Perhaps an anonymous tip to the NYPD should be phoned in, suggesting that there are suspects easily found who have a motive to kill her, in order to silence her, as she was an obstruction to their aims of profiting from sales of Loose (Stool) Change DVD's.

Or not.

DR

 

[Firestone]

Dylan Avery is now suggesting that the posts on their forum were not really from Wendy Burlingame, because they were made from the UK.

 

[Arkan_Wolfshade]

Dylan Avery is now suggesting that the posts on their forum were not really from Wendy Burlingame, because they were made from the UK.

True, or not, that is another violation of the ToS agreement with invisionfree.com

 

[uk_dave]

That's depressing.

She came to the UK for a visit and was so bored she had to post on a bloody CT forum?

 

[Gravy]

Dylan Avery is now suggesting that the posts on their forum were not really from Wendy Burlingame, because they were made from the UK.

Here's his blog post on that. http://loosechange911.blogspot.com/

Could be an IP proxy?

At the time, Apathoid and others posting on the SLC forum were convinced that this was indeed Wendy Burlingame. I don't know what that certainty was based on.

And I see that Avery and Rowe held a LC screening right down the street from me the other day. Gah! What a missed opportunity!

 

[uk_dave]

And I see that Avery and Rowe held a LC screening right down the street from me the other day. Gah! What a missed opportunity!

Yeah...er....sorry 'bout that gravy, big owl was busy having his feathers ruffled by a swedish gypsy and...we...ummmm kinda forgot to get the message through to you.

Oh BTW the flying monkeys say "hi"

 

[uk_dave]

QUOTE (Killtown @ Dec 6 2006, 07:17 PM)
And does anybody else think it's strange her death comes 3 days after the Doubletree Hotel security video was released which supposedly shows the aftermath of her's father plane hitting the Pentagon?

Avery opines:
I find it interesting as hell. But it certainly doesn't prove anything.

http://z10.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=1406

Vinegar strokes

 

[maccy]

Here's his blog post on that. http://loosechange911.blogspot.com/

Could be an IP proxy?

Almost certainly an IP Proxy, here's part of the RIPE database entry that Dylan didn't include in his post:

inetnum: 85.234.143.0 - 85.234.144.255
netname: PH-NETWORK-VASERVE
descr: PoundHost Internet London
country: GB

source

A traceroute confirms that that particular block lives in Telehouse, a co-location facility in Docklands, London. The reverse DNS on some randomly selected IPs from the range above suggests hosted servers belonging to different companies, for example:

helium.vividiti.net [85.234.143.22]
ns1.zerotrance.net [85.234.144.88]
ns1.mymanager.co.uk [85.234.144.45]

This leads me to conclude that this block of IP addresses is statically assigned to various companies' servers, and not dynamically assigned to domestic ISP customers (you'd expect a dynamic address block to be bigger than a /23 - 510 usable addresses - as well). The only other possiblity would be an ISP using webcaches, but you wouldn't expect these to be mixed in with a bunch of hosted servers.

Furthermore, neither PoundHost nor Euroconnex (its sister company) provide ISP services to domestic users. In fact the only IP connectivity they supply is high-end transit, which most businesses wouldn't have a use for.

http://www.euroconnex.net/ http://www.poundhost.com/

So all we can say about the poster is that they used a server in the UK as an IP proxy. They could have done this from anywhere in the world, so it's still possible that it was the real Wendy Burlingame.

 

[Kiwiwriter]

Let's remember something...

...this story is, in the end, is a needless tragedy for a family that has already suffered from a needless tragedy, and seen the head of that family slandered and defamed after his death.

I hope but doubt that the CT nutters will show a dash of humanity and avoid turning Wendy's death into a circus of speculation, defamation, insult, and abuse.

But they won't.

 

[Brainster]

By coincidence, Debra Burlingame (Wendy's aunt) has an article today in the Wall Street Journal on the six imams kicked off a Minneapolis-Phoenix flight a week or two ago. Relevant part:

"Allahu Akbar" was just the opening act. After boarding, they did not take their assigned seats but dispersed to seats in the first row of first class, in the midcabin exit rows and in the rear--the exact configuration of the 9/11 execution teams. The head of the group, seated closest to the cockpit, and two others asked for a seatbelt extension, kept on board for obese people. A heavy metal buckle at the end of a long strap, it can easily be used as a lethal weapon. The three men rolled them up and placed them on the floor under their seats.

I had not heard those details before--no wonder the passengers and crew wanted them off the flight!

 

[apathoid]

Horrible news.

I absolutely hate that she is now going to become fodder for the Deniers insane delusions. She, like her Dad, deserves much better. RIP Wendy.

 

[Gravy]

Dylan Avery, today:

"No one has ever claimed that Charles was "involved" with the terrorists. Au contraire, Charles Burlingame was perhaps one of the finest people you could ever meet." http://loosechange911.blogspot.com/

Avery: Ha Ha Ha Ha! Have you seen how small those things [box cutters] are? Like, if I was on a flight, with, you know, at least 50 other people – because that's the smallest number I think was on 9/11 – if I was in the cabin, with 50 other people, and five people – I don't care if they're Muslim or not – stand up with box cutters and say they're gonna hijack the plane, I'm gonna laugh in their face!

Blood: And these pilots, I mean, we interviewed Debra Burlingame, whose brother Chick was the one supposedly flying that plane that hit the Pentagon–

Avery: Oh, that's right! I heard about that!

Blood: –And of course she is a TOTAL shill for the Republican Party, she also spoke at the [Republican National] Convention. And is it ABSURD that she went on and on about how her brother was ex-military, how she knows that her brother and the other pilots fought for their lives, against these deadly terrorists–

Avery: Yeaaah, yeah. Whatever.

Blood: (mocking an Arabic accent): It is my religion to keel you with thees box cutter!

Avery: Ha ha!

Blood: Didn't Rumsfeld say, right after this happened, that they had actually done this with plastic knives and not box cutters?

Avery: Yeah, he said that in the same interview where he said that a missile hit the Pentagon.

Blood: OH MY GOD! HE'S GOT A PLASTIC KNIFE!

Avery: HAHAHA!

Blood: RUN!

Avery: HE'S GOT A BUTTER KNIFE FROM BREAKFAST! OH, NO!

Blood: Take the plane, sir. We don't want any trouble.

Avery: HE'S GOING TO SCRATCH ME A LITTLE BIT! HUH HUH!

Blood: UN-BELIEVABLE! Well, that's exactly what we're saying. That's an overused term, or underused term, "unbelievable."

Avery: (Still laughing): It's ABSOLUTELY unbelievable!

Blood: (doing accent again): It's un-bee-leevable!

Avery: What's even MORE unbelievable is how people will DEFEND this!

***************

Dylan Avery on the passengers aboard flights 77 and 93:

"They didn't die on these planes as we are told. There is actually some evidence that some of these people were already dead before 9/11."

***************

Jason Bermas: Charles Burlingame, whose plane allegedly hit the Pentagon, six to nine months prior to 9/11 he was still in the Navy and he took part in the drills where they actually drilled hitting a plane into the Pentagon. You can actually see the pictures of the broken up commercial airliner in a model of the Pentagon.

Radio host: Yeah, Charles Burlingame is another big mystery here, for sure.

Bermas: Um, hmm.

Note: Charles Burlingame retired from the Navy in 1979, when he became a pilot for American. He retired from the Naval Reserves in 1996. He did not take part in the Pentagon aircraft crash drill.

“I've found that the Pentagon is the easiest sell.” –Dylan Avery

Bermas: What hit the Pentagon? The speculation is there, but all's we're saying is that a Boeing 757 did not hit the Pentagon. It's absolutely impossible.

Avery: There's no 757 at the Pentagon. It just simply isn't there. IT DIDN'T HIT THE PENTAGON, OBVIOUSLY, AND THERE'S NO TRACE OF IT AT THE PENTAGON, SO WHERE DID IT GO?

Avery: Am I convinced that it wasn't flight 77, basically? Yeah, hands down.

You know, they say there's a lot of witnesses who say they saw, you know, a Boeing 757 fly into the Pentagon, but you gotta remember a lot of those people also WORK in the Pentagon. And either that's what they were told to say, maybe they were told to say it was a drill, I don't know. But you have to take these things into consideration.

Avery: Those are magical Muslims. They can do what they want. They can change the laws of physics.

Avery: That's ridiculous. You've got 84 videos of a jet hitting the Pentagon, and you can't show one? I mean, we pay for the tape that that video is recorded on. It's legally ours!

Avery: Yeah, essentially. I'm waiting for them to release a fake video that shows a 757 hitting, but I don't think it's going to happen. There's no way they can fabricate that kind of video. I would LOVE to see it."

Host: And of course the only answer is, that by releasing it, it would show a conspiracy to defraud the public.

Avery: Yeah, essentially. I'm waiting for them to release a fake video that shows a 757 hitting, but I don't think it's going to happen. There's no way they can fabricate that kind of video. I would LOVE to see it."

Host: I thought it astounding that anything, anything at all hit the Pentagon, never mind the Twin Towers, you could see they might not be ready for that. But you would think, and one would have to assume, that the Pentagon had orders for every defense to be stood down.

Avery:...It's the most heavily guarded airspace in the world. That's confirmed.

Host: What about automated missile defense systems?

Avery: Oh, yeah. The Pentagon's got 'em on every section of the lawn. I mean, you've got SAM [Surface-to-Air Missile] sites all OVER the place!"

Bermas: Just the point that it's the most militarized airspace in the world over the Pentagon...

Avery: I don't think they can [come up with a video] because what they describe in the 9/11 Commission Report is physically impossible. I mean, I would just love to see them fake a video. It would require some serious, serious work, where the wings fold in...

Bermas: There's just so much information out there. I mean, the Barbara Olson phone call is suspicious in itself. It was said that she couldn't find her purse so she couldn't use her cell phone, so she used an Airfone. But everyone who's used an Airfone knows that you need a credit card to swipe first, so they can charge you, and she would have needed her purse to do that. So, again, these phone calls are VERY sketchy.

Caller: The presumption is that a missile hit the Pentagon. It would have to come from either a ship or a plane.

Rowe: Or ground. Actually, it could have been a Javelin round, which is a two-man team. It costs up to around $750,000 to for the equipment for one round to actually have the piece that locks onto to whatever you're shooting from.

Caller: And it could cause the damage that was shown...

Rowe: Yes, it could do that, but it would have to be significantly modified. But I would lean closer to a missile being shot by an airplane.

Bermas: The interesting thing is that we have Amalgam Virgo going on, that same day, which is an East coast attack on the Pentagon from a missile.

Avery: Yeah, apparently it was a cruise missile launched off a barge off the east coast by a ROGUE ELEMENT.

[Wrong. Amalgam Virgo took place on June 1-4, 2001. http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/ops/amalgam-virgo.htm ]

Caller: ...The size of the conspiracy, I know things were compartmentalized, but that's one of the things that keeps nagging at me.

Rowe: Inside the military you can do things and not really realize what you're doing. The military is so large, and there's so many pieces moving at once, that on certain levels, people don't have any idea.

Complete respect.

 

[JAStewart]

I just covered this in my blog: http://electionnightspecial.blogspot.com

R.I.P Wendy.

 

[Foolmewunz]

These guys are repulsive. Period.

Avery: Ha Ha Ha Ha! Have you seen how small those things [box cutters] are? Like, if I was on a flight, with, you know, at least 50 other people – because that's the smallest number I think was on 9/11 – if I was in the cabin, with 50 other people, and five people – I don't care if they're Muslim or not – stand up with box cutters and say they're gonna hijack the plane, I'm gonna laugh in their face!

What you should do is stage a little guerrilla theater at the taping of the debate.

Get four or five guys to come in and comandeer the room with box cutters threatening that they have bombs under their jackets. Let's see Dylan take 'em down!