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Cancel culture IRL

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I do find it hilarious that Andrew's excuse is something his fellow liberals don't believe exists. Does he really think Republicans are going to rally 'round him?
 
d4m10n said:
You are pretending not to understand I meant he wasn't fired by Kroger. Have fun with that, I guess, but don't expect anyone to play along.
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This is the exchange:
johnny karate said:
How was Kroger Andy “cancelled”?
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d4m10n said:
He was not cancelled, thankfully.
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No pretending required. The only thing I’m asking anyone to “play along” with is reality and the actual words that you posted.

Meanwhile, you expect people to interpret “He was not cancelled” as “He was not fired, but he was definitely still cancelled” because you realized after the fact how badly that admission damages your argument.

And you imply that I’m the one playing games and being dishonest.
 
d4m10n said:
It's pretty easy to be mad on the internet without trying to ruin people's careers, last I checked. (The trick is not to tag in or boycott their employer.)
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It’s also easy to not be stupid and bigoted online. The trick is to not be stupid and bigoted online.

Sometimes people exercise free speech in ways that other people don’t like.
 
d4m10n said:
¿Por que no los dos?

If you believe cancellation is sometimes merited, at least let people take credit for helping it along.
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In reference to people like Cuomo, “cancelling” is a comically toothless and inept term. Cuomo isn’t being “cancelled”, he’s facing repercussions from serious and potentially criminal charges. To say he’s being “cancelled” minimizes the gravity of the situation and further renders the term meaningless.
 
johnny karate said:
Meanwhile, you expect people to interpret “He was not cancelled” as “He was not fired, but he was definitely still cancelled” because you realized after the fact how badly that admission damages your argument.
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Takes a special sort of chutzpah to put such blatant mischaracterization in quotation marks. Once again, Andy was subjected to a performance of online shaming designed to have him sanctioned. I call this an example of cancel culture but I do not call it a completed cancellation because the end goal was never reached.
 
Brainster said:
I do find it hilarious that Andrew's excuse is something his fellow liberals don't believe exists. Does he really think Republicans are going to rally 'round him?
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He’ll probably be Tucker Carlson’s lead-in a year from now.
 
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d4m10n said:
Takes a special sort of chutzpah to put such blatant mischaracterization in quotation marks. Once again, Andy was subjected to a performance of online shaming designed to have him sanctioned. I call this an example of cancel culture but I do not call it a completed cancellation because the end goal was never reached.
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That definition you keep referring to quite clearly says that a “cancelling” must take place for it to qualify as “cancel culture”.

You said Kroger Andy wasn’t “cancelled”.

At this point, maybe you just need to find a better definition.
 
A Georgetown Law professor lost her job due to the following exchange with a colleague on Zoom (her former colleague is currently under review for not pushing back against her alleged racism):

https://twitter.com/hahmad1996/status/1369786323293310985?s=20

People are demanding an audit of her class grades. Makes sense. Law schools are well-known for blind grading in order to reduce bias. I don't know if that's the case for this particular class (not all courses have assessments that can be scored anonymously), but it could be instructive to see how her grades shake out relative to other professors at the law school -- and how Black students perform relative to non-Black students in general. I suspect the university will not be eager to publicly disclose such information, especially if this allegedly racist law professor awarded higher scores to Black students than other faculty members.

I think both of the law professors in this Zoom chat should be fired. For being idiots. Would they talk about clients on a hot mic?

I had a colleague who expressed a similar sentiment about her Black students. It did not occur to me that she was a racist, but maybe that's because she was Black. Probably still is.
 
Cain said:
A Georgetown Law professor lost her job due to the following exchange with a colleague on Zoom (her former colleague is currently under review for not pushing back against her alleged racism):

https://twitter.com/hahmad1996/status/1369786323293310985?s=20
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"I hate to say this ..."

That sounds like my mother, who will sometimes say things like "I know it's a terrible thing to say, but ...", followed by something racist. If you hate to say it or know it's a terrible thing to say, then maybe you should consider not saying it.
 
Armitage72 said:
"I hate to say this ..."

That sounds like my mother, who will sometimes say things like "I know it's a terrible thing to say, but ...", followed by something racist. If you hate to say it or know it's a terrible thing to say, then maybe you should consider not saying it.
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Right, but what she said is that she feels "angst" about having a block of the lowest performing students being black. That could be taken as her being aware of the appearance and uncomfortable with it. She does sound crude in her expressing this, but a charitable interpretation is not a damning thing.
 
Thermal said:
Right, but what she said is that she feels "angst" about having a block of the lowest performing students being black. That could be taken as her being aware of the appearance and uncomfortable with it. She does sound crude in her expressing this, but a charitable interpretation is not a damning thing.
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There's another one. Like clockwork.
 
Armitage72 said:
"I hate to say this ..."

That sounds like my mother, who will sometimes say things like "I know it's a terrible thing to say, but ...", followed by something racist. If you hate to say it or know it's a terrible thing to say, then maybe you should consider not saying it.
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Saying that, for example, the black students in a class appear to have lower grades than the white students in the class, is not inherently or necessarily racist. However, saying that this is because of their skin colour would be a racist statement.

All of the time our SJW crowd spend clutching their pearls over something they have unilaterally decided is "racist", would be better spent investigating whether or not black students ARE actually under-performing, and if they are, then why this is the case, and what can be done to improve the situation.

I see a lot of hand-wringing and poutrage in this case, but I'm not seeing a lot of addressing if the actual issue.
 
smartcooky said:
Saying that, for example, the black students in a class appear to have lower grades than the white students in the class, is not inherently or necessarily racist. However, saying that this is because of their skin colour would be a racist statement.

All of the time our SJW crowd spend clutching their pearls over something they have unilaterally decided is "racist", would be better spent investigating whether or not black students ARE actually under-performing, and if they are, then why this is the case, and what can be done to improve the situation.

I see a lot of hand-wringing and poutrage in this case, but I'm not seeing a lot of addressing if the actual issue.
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Agreed. Black students may in fact be performing poorly, possibly as a result of inadequate earlier education, not some racist 'inferiority' tripe. Predominantly black school districts have been demonstrated to be sub par in the States, which is one of my country's biggest ongoing disgraces. Quality of public education needs to be scrupulously standardized to begin levelling out the playing field.
 
Thermal said:
The one that said "there's another one". Another one of what?.
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In an earlier thread, I pointed out how often you came quickly and vehemently to the defense of most white people in news items posted in this forum where racism was being discussed. And that you were equally consistent in dismissing the experience if black people involved or villifying them.

You asked me for examples.

Here's one.
 
Cavemonster said:
In an earlier thread, I pointed out how often you came quickly and vehemently to the defense of most white people in news items posted in this forum where racism was being discussed. And that you were equally consistent in dismissing the experience if black people involved or villifying them.

You asked me for examples.
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First off, no you didn't. You claimed that I was VERY inclined to shame the complainants. I had to give you the obvious correction that I rarely talk about the complainant, instead usually asking why posters are knee-jerking an uncharitable and unevidenced view of the accused.

The subtle reframing of what you said, and my response, is profoundly dishonest of you. I asked you not to be dishonest.

Here's one.
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Nope. See above. I have no shame toss on the complainants. I'm asking why the teacher's feelings of angst at noticing black students performing poorly in her class necessarily indicates racism. It may, certainly, especially if her grading of those students is found to be inconsistent. But that has not been shown, has it?

Second off, you might want to consider that I would have no way of knowing that you were picking up in the middle of another exchange from another thread weeks ago. Not exactly on my mind anymore. If you were a little less cryptic, that'd be great.

But since you brought it up again, you have yet to show even ONE of the "numerous" threads where I am "VERY inclined to shame the complainant". Based on melanin, as you elaborated. Or you can slink off without supporting your claim. Again.

Eta: said it before, and I'll say it again: when an (invariably) white poster starts off with the assumption that all white people can be assumed to be racist...you guys just don't get that irony, do you? It just fascinates me.
 
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