Cancel culture IRL

[Dr. Keith]

My luck's turning around, Ben Shapiro called is going to make a straight to video movie about how libruls ruined my life.

Good deal. Just making sure.

Now on to see why JoeMorgue is ******** on his boss’s desk. Is the issue intestinal or managerial?

 

[johnny karate]

What do you think I meant by that?

A) Andy wasn't subjected to a performance of public shaming (i.e. "cancel culture")

B) Andy didn't lose his job at Kroger

What a weird question.

Can you please remind me when I defined "cancelled" in the past tense?

(Bearing in mind, once again, that there is a big difference between "Damion is waxing the car" and "Damion has waxed the car" in that the second sentence implies a process which has reached a desired end goal.)

You defined “cancel culture”, and if you didn’t have a handle on the meaning of half the words in that term, it’s strange that you so confidently make determinations of when to apply it.

 

[johnny karate]

I do feel a bit bogged down, but for the sake of endless repetition: Kroger Andy was subjected to the sort of online public shaming designed to have him sanctioned/sacked, but he wasn't actually fired as a result. I call this an example of "cancel culture" because the definition of the phrase I'm using hinges on the public performance of shaming rather than the result.

(Incidentally, we couldn't've known the end result in advance.)

The definition that you provided requires a “cancelling” to take place for it to be “cancel culture”.

You said Kroger Andy wasn’t “cancelled”.

That contradiction has yet to be reconciled.

 

[d4m10n]

You defined “cancel culture”, and if you didn’t have a handle on the meaning of half the words in that term, it’s strange that you so confidently make determinations of when to apply it.

I think it's a bit strange that you're (willfully?) failing to differentiate between a cancellation in progress and one that has completed all of its goals. At any rate, you already know what I mean by "cancel culture" and why Kroger/Andy is an example of the performance of public shaming.

The definition that you provided requires a “cancelling” to take place for it to be “cancel culture”.

A cancelling (public shaming in view of sanctions) did take place. Again, I've already shown you the receipts.

What a weird question.

Evasion noted. Do not expect me to answer any of your questions until you address mine.

 

[johnny karate]

He's literally being publicly shamed and told to step down; seems like a quintessential example of what it means to cancel someone these days.

And this is problematic for people who don’t hold “No snitching” as their highest ethical standard how, exactly?

 

[d4m10n]

And this is problematic for people who don’t hold “No snitching” as their highest ethical standard how, exactly?

What a weird question.

 

[johnny karate]

I think it's a bit strange that you're (willfully?) failing to differentiate between a cancellation in progress and one that has completed all of its goals. At any rate, you already know what I mean by "cancel culture" and why Kroger/Andy is an example of the performance of public shaming.

I’m not setting any standards here. I’m using the definition that you provided and referring to statements that you made. My only role has been to point out the contradictions between the two.

A cancelling (public shaming in view of sanctions) did take place. Again, I've already shown you the receipts.

Is this one of your receipts?

How was Kroger Andy “cancelled”?

He was not cancelled, thankfully.

Evasion noted. Do not expect me to answer any of your questions until you address mine.

Great, then don’t. I’ll not engage in sophistic wankery in which you want me to tell you what I think you meant about something that you said. If you don’t know what you meant, I can’t help you with that.

 

[d4m10n]

I’m not setting any standards here. I’m using the definition that you provided and referring to statements that you made.

I provided no working definition of "cancelled" in the past tense until after you decided (wrongly) to assume "cancel culture" requires a completed cancellation. To my knowledge, you've (coyly) provided no definition whatsoever.

If you don’t know what you meant, I can’t help you with that.

I already told you that I meant (quite simply) that Andy didn't get sacked from his job at Kroger. This does not imply that the public performance of shaming Andy wasn't an example of cancel culture.

 

[Stout]

Andy got a free trip to the Bahamas Stick that in your pipe and smoke it #cancelculture.

Up next Sharon Osbourne ?

 

[johnny karate]

I provided no working definition of "cancelled" in the past tense until after you decided (wrongly) to assume "cancel culture" requires a completed cancellation. To my knowledge, you've (coyly) provided no definition whatsoever.

I haven’t assumed anything nor am I defining terms here. I’m referring to definitions that you provide. It’s not my fault that you didn’t bother to define “cancelled” for yourself before you said that Kroger Andy wasn’t “cancelled”.

I already told you that I meant (quite simply) that Andy didn't get sacked from his job at Kroger. This does not imply that the public performance of shaming Andy wasn't an example of cancel culture.

Not according to the definition of “cancel culture” that you provided.

 

[d4m10n]

Not according to the definition of “cancel culture” that you provided.

For the record, here is the the definition I provided:

Cancel culture refers to the popular practice of withdrawing support for (canceling) public figures and companies after they have done or said something considered objectionable or offensive. Cancel culture is generally discussed as being performed on social media in the form of group shaming.

The operative question is whether people performatively withdrew support from Kroger/Andy "on social media in the form of group shaming." The answer is obvious to nearly everyone.

 

[johnny karate]

Up next Sharon Osbourne ?

Sharon Osbourne on Piers Morgan saying things other people don’t like: “He has a right to his opinions as well as to his freedom of speech”.

Sharon Osbourne on other people saying things she doesn’t like: “She feels she’s now about to be ‘put in the electric chair’”.

Oh, the poor dear.

 

[johnny karate]

For the record, here is the the definition I provided:The operative question is whether people withdrew support from Kroger/Andy "in the form of group shaming." The answer is obvious to nearly everyone.

Agreed. And in that definition, that phenomenon is called “canceling”. It’s right there in parentheses, clear as day.

But you said Kroger Andy wasn’t “cancelled”.

Oops.

 

[d4m10n]

But you said Kroger Andy wasn’t “cancelled”.

You are pretending not to understand I meant he wasn't fired by Kroger. Have fun with that, I guess, but don't expect anyone to play along.

 

[dirtywick]

At that point cancel culture is just people being mad on the internet.

 

[d4m10n]

At that point cancel culture is just people being mad on the internet.

It's pretty easy to be mad on the internet without trying to ruin people's careers, last I checked. (The trick is not to tag in or boycott their employer.)

 

[dirtywick]

It's pretty easy to be mad on the internet without trying to ruin people's careers, last I checked. (The trick is not to tag in or boycott their employer.)

Yep, people do it all the time. Yet some call it cancel culture anyway.

 

[TurkeysGhost]

It's pretty easy to be mad on the internet without trying to ruin people's careers, last I checked. (The trick is not to tag in or boycott their employer.)

Who ruined Cuomo's career? Internet randos calling him on his ****, or Cuomo when he routinely sexually harassed women.

 

[d4m10n]

Who ruined Cuomo's career? Internet randos calling him on his ****, or Cuomo when he routinely sexually harassed women.

¿Por que no los dos?

If you believe cancellation is sometimes merited, at least let people take credit for helping it along.

 

[Stout]

Yep, people do it all the time. Yet some call it cancel culture anyway.

As I've said before, it's just a buzzword for something that's always existed. In a coupe of years it'll probably be gone or replaced with something else.