Cont: Cancel culture IRL Part 2

[dirtywick]

If you're really asking for the worst case examples, consider what happened to Salman Rushdie fairly recently or Theo van Gogh much less recently. After they were publicly demonized for speech or expression, they were individually targeted for violent reprisal.

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that's cancel culture? lol ok

 

[dirtywick]

Imagine not empathizing with people who cannot hold on to a part time job. Lol nothing matters, amirite?



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it's not a national dilemma

 

[TurkeysGhost]

it's not a national dilemma

The precarity of the American workforce is absolutely a scandal and worthy of more attention, but that's not much to do with this cancel culture hobby horse.

I have my doubts that many of these pundits whining about cancel culture have any real problems with at-will, no contract employment in the US, but it's the closest thing to a real issue they've come to with their moral panic.

 

[dirtywick]

The precarity of the American workforce is absolutely a scandal and worthy of more attention, but that's not much to do with this cancel culture hobby horse.

I have my doubts that many of these pundits whining about cancel culture have any real problems with at-will, no contract employment in the US, but it's the closest thing to a real issue they've come to with their moral panic.

idk, maybe dave chapelle was too busy counting his tens of millions of dollars he made off of his multiple offensive comedy specials about how hard it is to make offensive comedy to bring it up. maybe not, but i've seen bigger leaps of logic on the topic.

 

[d4m10n]

that's cancel culture? lol ok

I'm not the first to observe that demonizing and dehumanizing a targeted group or individual is statistically likely to end in violence at least some of the time. There is even a term for this process: stochastic terrorism.

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[dirtywick]

I'm not the first to observe that demonizing and dehumanizing a targeted group or individual is statistically likely to end in violence at least some of the time. There is even a term for this process: stochastic terrorism.

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cancel culture is terrorism?

 

[lobosrul5]

cancel culture is terrorism?

Yes, bitching and moaning on Twitter that you won't buy "brand x's" product because of "employee y's" opinion is exactly the same as the fatwa called against Salman Rushdie. /s

 

[d4m10n]

cancel culture is terrorism?

Someone asked for "the worst thing that's happened" as the result of an attempted cancellation, that is, a wave of outrage directed an an individual as a result of their giving offense. Such extreme outliers are not good representations of the general phenomenon, however, for obvious reasons. Also, most cancellations don't include fatwas.

 

[tyr_13]

Another anti-cancel culture anti-woke cancellation is in the cards and this time it's the uber-woke...

...Chick-fil-A...

 

[dirtywick]

Someone asked for "the worst thing that's happened" as the result of an attempted cancellation, that is, a wave of outrage directed an an individual as a result of their giving offense. Such extreme outliers are not good representations of the general phenomenon, however, for obvious reasons. Also, most cancellations don't include fatwas.

no, it wasn't someone it was me, and what i asked was what's the worst thing that happened due to cancel culture. you replied with a terrorist attack from 2004. before the woke mob was even born.

obviously, now i'm terrified of cancel culture as well, sounds like a pretty serious thing.

 

[d4m10n]

before the woke mob was even born.

You seem to think that "cancel culture" must refer to woke mobs rather than outraged mobs more generally. Why is that?

 

[lobosrul5]

You seem to think that "cancel culture" must refer to woke mobs rather than outraged mobs more generally. Why is that?

I genuinely hope, for your sake, that this a ploy, and that indeed you can tell the difference between "cancel culture" normally defined as: "the popular practice of withdrawing support for public figures and companies after they have done or said something considered objectionable or offensive."

And:

Calling for a person to be murdered for their views, or indeed attempting to murder said person. Or indeed calls for violence of any kind.

 

[dirtywick]

You seem to think that "cancel culture" must refer to woke mobs rather than outraged mobs more generally. Why is that?

oh man idk where i heard the woke mob was cancelling people, must be remembering this all wrong

 

[TurkeysGhost]

Another person in a position of power whining that the unwashed masses disagreeing with their privileged opinion is cancel culture

On May 21 I officiated at my 18th and final Commencement ceremony as president of Boston University. It was an unruly affair. David Zaslav, president and CEO of Warner Bros. Discovery and our alumnus, was our Commencement speaker and an honorary degree recipient, invited long before the ongoing strike by the Writers Guild of America (WGA) began on May 2. Not surprisingly, there were protesters both outside and inside our ceremony, as the leaders of the media business are at the focus of the labor dispute.

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Our students were not picking a fight. They were attempting to implement the cancel culture that has become all too prevalent on university campuses. The hundreds of virtually identical protest emails we received in my office in advance of Commencement came with an explicit “cancel” hashtag, indicating an aim to prevent Mr. Zaslav from speaking. The attempt to silence a speaker with obscene shouts is a resort to gain power, not reason, and antithetical to the mission and purposes of a university.

https://www.bu.edu/articles/2023/a-lesson-from-150th-commencement-at-bu/#:~:text=President%20Brown%20writes%3A%20%E2%80%9COur%20students,to%20implement%20the%20cancel%20culture%E2%80%9D&text=On%20May%2021%20I%20officiated,It%20was%20an%20unruly%20affair.

Apparently it's not the place for students to object to whom their university bestows honors

 

[Gulliver Foyle]

that's cancel culture? lol ok

Quite ironic that both of those perpetrators would be best characterised as far right in political ideology. In fact, if they were christian, they would likely be heroes to those who complain about "cancel culture".

 

[d4m10n]

Quite ironic that both of those perpetrators would be best characterised as far right in political ideology.

Why is that ironic? I've mentioned conservative cancel culture several times upthread.

 

[tyr_13]

There are now calls from the same right wingers who cancelled Target and Chick-Fil-A to cancel Lego over a two year old trans acceptance set.

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If we remove any movements that include violence from 'cancel culture' then 'cancel culture' becomes almost by definition exclusively left wing simply because of how often right wing cancellations employ threats of violence and outright violence.

 

[d4m10n]

If we remove any movements that include violence from 'cancel culture' then 'cancel culture' becomes almost by definition exclusively left wing simply because of how often right wing cancellations employ threats of violence and outright violence.

The left doesn't legitimize violence except when it does.

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[tyr_13]

There are now calls from the same right wingers who cancelled Target and Chick-Fil-A to cancel Lego over a two year old trans acceptance set.

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If we remove any movements that include violence from 'cancel culture' then 'cancel culture' becomes almost by definition exclusively left wing simply because of how often right wing cancellations employ threats of violence and outright violence.

The left doesn't legitimize violence except when it does.

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You might want to run your reply through some basic logic one more time to see if it responds to what what I said at all.

 

[d4m10n]

You might want to run your reply through some basic logic one more time to see if it responds to what what I said at all.

You said that only the right wing wants to do the violence, as if Steve Scalise never got shot and the Weather Underground was a fictional movement.