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Wolves hunting children have not historically been a problem on this continent because we've not allowed wolves to live in fairly densely populated areas.

Cheers,
Ben

Wolves hunting children hasn't been a problem anywhere at any time. Wolves have been hunted to extinction or near extinction because they were a competitor for game and a threat to livestock but hardly a danger to humans.
 
Wolves hunting children hasn't been a problem anywhere at any time. Wolves have been hunted to extinction or near extinction because they were a competitor for game and a threat to livestock but hardly a danger to humans.

Wait wait wait, hold on, don't go too extreme here.

A wolf that is sufficiently starving will eat anything that it can, though rarely will eat another wolf (though NAWA DID actually encounter a single case of "wolf cannibalism" with wolves kept up in some of the worst conditions by "animal handlers", but that's a different issue). There have been some cases of children or other people being attacked by wolves, though they are admittedly extremely rare, except in times of incredible famine.

In Medieval Germany, famine was spread all throughout the nation, in every town, village, and city; wolves were desperate, and would often attack livestock, but sometimes they encountered villages where there was no livestock. There were times (though I believe they were rare) that a wolf pack would wander through a village, attacking everyone that they could while roaming the streets. A scary thought, but those were incredibly scary times.

As for pets, that's still an issue. I'd think that wolves would be likely to attack pets, but they're far more likely to avoid humans, especially here in the U.S. And as far as I know, deer aren't mainly hanging around cities, so I don't see what the problem here is, really. If you live in the suburbs, the whole point, usually, is to be "closer to the wildlife".
 
Wolves hunting children hasn't been a problem anywhere at any time. Wolves have been hunted to extinction or near extinction because they were a competitor for game and a threat to livestock but hardly a danger to humans.

Sorry, but you're wrong. Wolves hunting humans is a real problem in India today. Let me pick a link from a site that likes wolves for proof: http://www.wolfsongalaska.org/Wolves_South_Asia_child.htm.

Now why is it a problem in India and not elsewhere? Well it is only in India that wolves live in close enough proximity to people that they have become habituated. Which makes them more willing to consider humans as potential prey. Even so it isn't a big problem, but our society is unwilling to accept even a little problem of this kind.

Cheers,
Ben
 
Bullets cost money...

Fortunately, times are changing. I am confident that in a couple of decades, all this will be mostly a thing of the past...

I hope you are right. Those cute, doe-eyed fluffy-fluffs deserve some dignity. Plus, their hides are worth at least the cost of a bullet. :(
 
I believe that the only lawful seal hunting that should occur is that done by the natives for their own food or clothing and that's it. I don't believe the "commercial" hunt should be allowed.

How about the Norwegian hunters? Norwegians are the natives of Norway ;)

I just read in the paper today that the government has set up a quota of 31200 seals for this year's culling, where 2 seals pups older than a year equals 1 grown up seal. The culling is subsidized by the government.

You can read about the Norwegian seal hunting on the offical site of the Norwegian government.

Seal hunting is difficult and, up to recently, seal-hunting activity has been on the decline. As a result, the seal population has increased, generating a local imbalance in the surrounding environment.
 
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How about the Norwegian hunters? Norwegians are the natives of Norway ;)

I think Dustin's point, which is also mine, is that native Canadians have fewer career options than "native" Norwegians. Because the Candian natives have gotten screwed over the years, they depend more on the land to sustain their own lives.
 
I think Dustin's point, which is also mine, is that native Canadians have fewer career options than "native" Norwegians. Because the Candian natives have gotten screwed over the years, they depend more on the land to sustain their own lives.

A fair point.
 
Of course that's what a site promoting the seal hunt will say...

Are you accusing the Norwegian government of lying to the public?

We have one of the freest presses in the world. If you're so sure they're lying, I suggest you contact a Norwegian newspaper. They love to run stories on the government lying.
 
Are you accusing the Norwegian government of lying to the public?

We have one of the freest presses in the world. If you're so sure they're lying, I suggest you contact a Norwegian newspaper. They love to run stories on the government lying.

Find an independent study confirming the same things then get back to me.
 
This thread is frustrating. It's given me a hankering for seal meat, but it has yet to show up in my grocer's freezer section. :(

What's keeping those hunters? Are they enjoying the kill too much?
 
Find an independent study confirming the same things then get back to me.

Well, I'm not privy to the scientific advisory board that reccomended that quota to the government, and have no idea if they've published a report on the web.

So why do you think the Norwegian government subsidizes the hunt, then? Just for kicks? Just to uphold our image as bloodthirsty northern barbarians? Norwegian ministers get horny when they think about the massacre they've legalized? I think your story to the Norwegian newspapers is getting better and better.
 
This thread is frustrating. It's given me a hankering for seal meat, but it has yet to show up in my grocer's freezer section. :(

If you ever come to visit, I promise to make you seal burgers :)

(Whale burgers are tastier, though)
 
Bullets cost money. The Bioindustry will do anything to keep the costs for killing animals down.

Fortunately, times are changing. I am confident that in a couple of decades, all this will be mostly a thing of the past as regarded as something like racial segragation, slavery etc.

Bullets are not very likely to cause a fatal wound. You most likely would be shooting through blubber. The club with a spike is used because it is the most likely to cause a fast death. Using bullets would be vastly more cruel.

It's been tried.
 
Molinaro;2514107..The club with a spike is used because it is the most likely to cause a fast death. Using bullets would be vastly more cruel.[/QUOTE said:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seal_hunting

It is therefore probable that a large number of seals indicated in this study would have been conscious not only while they were bleeding to death, but also while their skins were being removed.
 
If you ever come to visit, I promise to make you seal burgers :)

(Whale burgers are tastier, though)


And then come on up to Canada for some Bison burgers and Caribou steak. Mmmmm.....
 

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