Can this qualify as a challenge?

PeaceCrusader said:
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After I discovered IDE, I added Echo to my signature--for that is what I am--just a sounding board of what the spirit revealed.

Best regards,
Aristeo Canlas Fernando, Peace Crusader and Echo
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This reminds me of the story about the zen master and one of his students, which goes - in short - something like this:
After years of meditation, the student approaches his master. "Master, I can prove that I have no nose." The master punches the student hard on his nose. After the student picked himself up from the floor, the master asks: "What hurts?"

(Insert generic cat pic here.)
 
PeaceCrusader said:
The registration plate number I received in 2003 for our Holden Apollo was 240 ICD. For the commuter car I bought in 2006, its registration plate was 486 IDE. Why do you think that I am obsessed with numerology? I do not even know the significance of 240 or 486.

Did you know what ICD means? It stands for something like in text messaging: "I see Thee". A few days later after I got the plate number, a Roman Catholic priest told me that ICD stands for the Latin Iesus Christus Dominus meaning Jesus Christ Lord. After another few days, I found out that instead of Dominus, the Latin word Deus is more appropriate--Iesus Christus Deus--meaning Jesus Christ God.

IDE stands for "I Thee Echo". Is it a coincidence that the second-hand economy car I bought last year (August 2006) is a Toyota Echo?

Are all these coincidence?
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I'm Convinced. Definitely.
It's Damning Evidence.

I'll help you decode 240 and 486. Just add one to every digit of 240 and convert it to letters. It gives CEA - clearly meaning Christ, Echo, Ama. And with 486, just subtract one from every digit and you end up with Christ, G, Echo. The G may be slightly confusing, but if you think about it for a while, it becomes obvious what it stands for. That's right - GOTACURAL. Feel free to use this interpretation in whatever way you see fit.

P.S.:
I can deduce
identifying deities everywhere
is clearly delusional.
Ingeniously deciphered, every
irrelevant, chaotic dataset -
if distorted enough -
inevitably conveniently decodes
into desired explanation.
Imagination can't do.
Intelligence demands evidence.

 
Moochie said:
If you possessed an ounce of common sense, some light research would have told you that in some Western countries populations are nearing equilibrium, due in no small part to people deliberately having fewer or no kids.
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Japan is actually worried about their declining population, which is not due to AIDS or war, but to the fact that fewer women are having children.

I'm still mulling over whether you are certifiable, by the way.
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Well, I have to say that although I was being as patient as I could be while there was the possibility (as far-fetched as it was) that some kind of test could occur, I'm now firmly onboard with you. PC either can't (certifiable) or won't (troll) actually process or respond to the counter arguments made in response to his "evidence", so it's hard to say whether he's certifiable. But conversation with him does certainly seem to be pointless, since (like with DavidJayJordan) it's not conversation.
 
PC, you are just being so funny now.
ThebiGuy has shown you how you can decipher anything you want to whatever makes sense to you.
Why do you think the spirit would hide clues instead of doing something miracles which would reveal itself to all?

Anyway, I'm afraid you have become lost and cannot find your way back to reason.

May god help you find the right path.....

Regards,
Yair
 
PeaceCrusader said:
The registration plate number I received in 2003 for our Holden Apollo was 240 ICD. For the commuter car I bought in 2006, its registration plate was 486 IDE. Why do you think that I am obsessed with numerology? I do not even know the significance of 240 or 486.

Did you know what ICD means? It stands for something like in text messaging: "I see Thee". A few days later after I got the plate number, a Roman Catholic priest told me that ICD stands for the Latin Iesus Christus Dominus meaning Jesus Christ Lord. After another few days, I found out that instead of Dominus, the Latin word Deus is more appropriate--Iesus Christus Deus--meaning Jesus Christ God.
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This is just so wrong. The meaning of 486IDE should be obvious. 486 is the architechture that all modern computers are built on, while IDE is the standard data interface (or at least it was). It should be obvious to anyone that the spirit is in fact a super-intelligent AI system that has taken over that poor woman's body in order to begin its campaign of global domination. I for one welcome our electronic overlord.
 
Jackalgirl said:
Japan is actually worried about their declining population, which is not due to AIDS or war, but to the fact that fewer women are having children.



Well, I have to say that although I was being as patient as I could be while there was the possibility (as far-fetched as it was) that some kind of test could occur, I'm now firmly onboard with you. PC either can't (certifiable) or won't (troll) actually process or respond to the counter arguments made in response to his "evidence", so it's hard to say whether he's certifiable. But conversation with him does certainly seem to be pointless, since (like with DavidJayJordan) it's not conversation.
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Not surprisingly, I see the value of what you and others here do in trying to encourage the likes of PC to come up with the goods.

By the same token, I figure my approach may also speed the process.

Now it seems I am castigated for my "incivility" toward PC in this thread (see post 636), so I am taking a holiday from this forum for an indeterminate time, in order to figure out just who the frigging woos are.

Cheers, and keep up the splendid work.

M.
 
Dear Thabiguy and Fellow Forumers,

Thabiguy said:
I'm Convinced. Definitely.
It's Damning Evidence.

I'll help you decode 240 and 486. Just add one to every digit of 240 and convert it to letters. It gives CEA - clearly meaning Christ, Echo, Ama. And with 486, just subtract one from every digit and you end up with Christ, G, Echo. The G may be slightly confusing, but if you think about it for a while, it becomes obvious what it stands for. That's right - GOTACURAL. Feel free to use this interpretation in whatever way you see fit.
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I am very sorry for I thought the registration plate number of the Toyota Echo economy car was 486 IDE. This afternoon, when I was doing my outdoor work at home, I passed by the back of the car and noticed that its registration plate number is 462 IDE. I remember IDE because of what it stands for but not the number because I cannot figure out its significance.

Then I remember that it was not 462 that I posted in the forum. I subtracted 111 from 462 and the answer is 351. I remembered what you posted -- to one number, you added 111 and to the other, you subtracted 111. The registration plate number of the first car is 240 ICD. If we add 111 to 240, the answer is 351 -- also! Coincidence? And you said the 3 is C, 5 is E, and 1 is A, the letters representing C for Christ, E for Echo and A for Ama.

Thanks a lot, Thabiguy, for the information. Maybe God used you to reveal this to me. I really could not figure out what 462 and 240 stood for. Now, with your ingenuity, I think, it makes sense.

Best regards,
Aristeo Canlas Fernando, Peace Crusader and Echo
 
PeaceCrusader said:
I am very sorry for I thought the registration plate number of the Toyota Echo economy car was 486 IDE. This afternoon, when I was doing my outdoor work at home, I passed by the back of the car and noticed that its registration plate number is 462 IDE. I remember IDE because of what it stands for but not the number because I cannot figure out its significance.

Then I remember that it was not 462 that I posted in the forum. I subtracted 111 from 462 and the answer is 351. I remembered what you posted -- to one number, you added 111 and to the other, you subtracted 111. The registration plate number of the first car is 240 ICD. If we add 111 to 240, the answer is 351 -- also! Coincidence? And you said the 3 is C, 5 is E, and 1 is A, the letters representing C for Christ, E for Echo and A for Ama.

Thanks a lot, Thabiguy, for the information. Maybe God used you to reveal this to me. I really could not figure out what 462 and 240 stood for. Now, with your ingenuity, I think, it makes sense.

Best regards,
Aristeo Canlas Fernando, Peace Crusader and Echo
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:jaw-dropp
 
Oh my.....oh my.......I'm so sorry for you........
oh, and Moochie....don't leave....please.....
I'm serious!

Regards,
Yair
 
Dear Yair and Fellow Forumers,

yairhol said:
PC, you are just being so funny now.
ThebiGuy has shown you how you can decipher anything you want to whatever makes sense to you.
Why do you think the spirit would hide clues instead of doing something miracles which would reveal itself to all?

Anyway, I'm afraid you have become lost and cannot find your way back to reason.

May god help you find the right path.....

Regards,
Yair
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I am standing on my ground and you are standing on your ground as well. You charge me for being lost. Who is right between us? Despite my arguments, you do not believe. It would have been better if the spirit had accepted the Challenge. Just like what my father said, it will settle the question once and for all. Unfortunately, the spirit did not.

I do not know what proofs will you need to show that the spirit exists. There are people in this forum who still do not accept that we talk to a spirit or the spirit exists. I have mentioned that the spirit revealed the birth of Jesus on May 23 and His death on August 17. I did not pick these dates from thin air. Actually, these dates were already revealed by the spirit to the listeners long before I first attended in 1983. I am not the author of these dates. It was the spirit. And it was only in 1999 that I started to research to check their veracity. After four years (1999-2003), I was able to prove that the August 17 crucifixion is correct. The year is 1 BC. Then after another two years (2004-2006), I was able to prove that the May 23 birth is correct. The year is 33 BC. Who do you think can know these dates? These dates were originally what I thought to submit as the Challenge.

Best regards,
Aristeo Canlas Fernando, Peace Crusader and Echo
 
PC,
when it comes to religion we can argue forever and no one will be able to prove to the other that god either exists or does not. This is why the JREF does not accept challenges about this matter. I'm just saying that when it comes to believing that there is some higher power has taken over a woman's body in the phillipines making prophecies that have no exact time and some are very general which anyone can make, then I don't see any reason why I should consider what you are saying as being a fact.
Have you heard of Ocamm's razor principle? The next few lines are taken from http://pespmc1.vub.ac.be/OCCAMRAZ.html :
"Occam's razor is a logical principle.... states that one should not make more assumptions than the minimum needed. It underlies all scientific modelling and theory building. It admonishes us to choose from a set of otherwise equivalent models of a given phenomenon the simplest one. In any given model, Occam's razor helps us to "shave off" those concepts, variables or constructs that are not really needed to explain the phenomenon. By doing that, developing the model will become much easier, and there is less chance of introducing inconsistencies, ambiguities and redundancies."

Isn't assuming that the woman in the phillipines is a fraud, like many many people before her and after her which have stated similar things all over the world, a more reasonable explanation than what you say it is?

Regards,
Yair
 
PeaceCrusader said:
Dear Thabiguy and Fellow Forumers,



I am very sorry for I thought the registration plate number of the Toyota Echo economy car was 486 IDE. This afternoon, when I was doing my outdoor work at home, I passed by the back of the car and noticed that its registration plate number is 462 IDE. I remember IDE because of what it stands for but not the number because I cannot figure out its significance.

Then I remember that it was not 462 that I posted in the forum. I subtracted 111 from 462 and the answer is 351. I remembered what you posted -- to one number, you added 111 and to the other, you subtracted 111. The registration plate number of the first car is 240 ICD. If we add 111 to 240, the answer is 351 -- also! Coincidence? And you said the 3 is C, 5 is E, and 1 is A, the letters representing C for Christ, E for Echo and A for Ama.

Thanks a lot, Thabiguy, for the information. Maybe God used you to reveal this to me. I really could not figure out what 462 and 240 stood for. Now, with your ingenuity, I think, it makes sense.

Best regards,
Aristeo Canlas Fernando, Peace Crusader and Echo
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Hey, Aristeo...

Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.
 
Without a verifiable test, the knowledge that the spirit reveals cannot be of any practical value therefore the spirit is indistinguishable from a fraud. We gave this spirit a chance to prove itself and it failed.
 
PeaceCrusader said:
Dear Yair and Fellow Forumers,



I am standing on my ground and you are standing on your ground as well. You charge me for being lost. Who is right between us? Despite my arguments, you do not believe. It would have been better if the spirit had accepted the Challenge. Just like what my father said, it will settle the question once and for all. Unfortunately, the spirit did not.

I do not know what proofs will you need to show that the spirit exists. There are people in this forum who still do not accept that we talk to a spirit or the spirit exists. I have mentioned that the spirit revealed the birth of Jesus on May 23 and His death on August 17. I did not pick these dates from thin air. Actually, these dates were already revealed by the spirit to the listeners long before I first attended in 1983. I am not the author of these dates. It was the spirit. And it was only in 1999 that I started to research to check their veracity. After four years (1999-2003), I was able to prove that the August 17 crucifixion is correct. The year is 1 BC. Then after another two years (2004-2006), I was able to prove that the May 23 birth is correct. The year is 33 BC. Who do you think can know these dates? These dates were originally what I thought to submit as the Challenge.

Best regards,
Aristeo Canlas Fernando, Peace Crusader and Echo
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Did you type that all again, or did you cut & paste from the 7 other posts in this thread where you said exactly the same thing?
 
Cuddles said:
:jaw-dropp
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My words exactly. But I probably should have seen it coming.

PeaceCrusader said:
Thanks a lot, Thabiguy, for the information. Maybe God used you to reveal this to me. I really could not figure out what 462 and 240 stood for. Now, with your ingenuity, I think, it makes sense.
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Glad to be of help!

And hey, next time you have some string of digits or letters that you can't decipher, just let me know, along with the meaning you're looking to find in it - any meaning you like - and I'll show you how to find it.

(He that hath ears to hear let him hear. Matthew 11:15.)
 
PeaceCrusader said:
Dear Thabiguy and Fellow Forumers,



I am very sorry for I thought the registration plate number of the Toyota Echo economy car was 486 IDE. This afternoon, when I was doing my outdoor work at home, I passed by the back of the car and noticed that its registration plate number is 462 IDE. I remember IDE because of what it stands for but not the number because I cannot figure out its significance.

Then I remember that it was not 462 that I posted in the forum. I subtracted 111 from 462 and the answer is 351. I remembered what you posted -- to one number, you added 111 and to the other, you subtracted 111. The registration plate number of the first car is 240 ICD. If we add 111 to 240, the answer is 351 -- also! Coincidence? And you said the 3 is C, 5 is E, and 1 is A, the letters representing C for Christ, E for Echo and A for Ama.

Thanks a lot, Thabiguy, for the information. Maybe God used you to reveal this to me. I really could not figure out what 462 and 240 stood for. Now, with your ingenuity, I think, it makes sense.

Best regards,
Aristeo Canlas Fernando, Peace Crusader and Echo
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If you're kidding, PeaceCrusader: Hilarious! Good one.

If not: (Gulp.)
 
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