Can this qualify as a challenge?

Burner said:
Uh-oh, I feel forum Gestapo will be on you soon. 'Talking to ze applicant ist verboten, show me ze papers. ' :D
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Cuddles proved in the past that he usually has a helpful point to make. This warrants some wiggle room.

You, Burner, have not - yet.
 
Pro7 said:
I got some things that could qualify for the MDC.. but will I take the challenge..

no..

Its because it would expose me or whatever that I do. No fear of fraud, no fear of anything that can be considered negative in the eyes of the challenge process..

You understand what my point is? Why would you want the money? .. why?
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Don't be a selfish bastage - you have the opportunity to crumble the very foundations of science and lead us into a new era of understanding, and you keep it to yourself? The money is really secondary to the new era of scientific progress that you would usher in.
 
Pro7 said:
Its because it would expose me or whatever that I do. No fear of fraud, no fear of anything that can be considered negative in the eyes of the challenge process..
You understand what my point is? Why would you want the money? .. why?
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Do I hear the X-files music in the background?







Yep, this thread has really gone to hell.
 
...human being giving birth to babies with horns, human being giving birth to kitten, and cat giving birth to human being? When, not if, these happen, will you believe?
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Yes. If these things happen I will believe in everything at once and disappear up my own ass.
 
Burner said:
Do I hear the X-files music in the background?







Yep, this thread has really gone to hell.
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Not the X-files.. its the twilight zone! OMG.. Im admitting myself into a psycho ward first thing in the morning. :boggled:
 
Starrman said:
Don't be a selfish bastage - you have the opportunity to crumble the very foundations of science and lead us into a new era of understanding, and you keep it to yourself? The money is really secondary to the new era of scientific progress that you would usher in.
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If you have what I have, you would be a selfish bastage :D
 
Pro7 said:
If you have what I have, you would be a selfish bastage :D
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I don't think I would - but how can I know if you don't tell me what it is? PM me if you don't want it published on the forum - I can keep a secret.
 
PeaceCrusader, we are still waiting for some kind of reply from the spirit...
Oh how I wish it will be a positive one.
 
GzuzKryzt said:
I'd like to keep at least one thread on track by simply discussing claim-related material and to not let the focus drift away from the process we're currently witnessing: The response of the "medium"/"spirit".
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Seeing as PC is currently gone from the forum, waiting by the mailbox like Charlie Brown on Valentine's Day, I don't know what harm could come from discussing things in his absense. When he gets back with his response from the "spirit," I'm sure we'll be able to redirect ourselves back to the topic.
 
Pro7 said:
I got some things that could qualify for the MDC.. but will I take the challenge..

no..

Its because it would expose me or whatever that I do. No fear of fraud, no fear of anything that can be considered negative in the eyes of the challenge process..

You understand what my point is? Why would you want the money? .. why?
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Then why bring up your "things that could qualify" at all? You say you want to protect your privacy and that your "things" are more important than money, but you still mention them here. You could have spoken entirely in hypotheticals; you chose not to.

I submit that you are being dishonest, perhaps unknowingly. You clearly want to be recognized, you want to be validated. You just don't want to have to have your "things" subjected to any real, objective review. The most likely reason is that you are afraid you would not pass such a test.

Your lack of desire for money may be laudable, but what of the good that such money could do for your favorite charity? Surely, the March of Dimes could use a million dollars. And what of all the people in the world who could benefit from hearing your message? Moses did not keep God's words to himself; he shared them with his people. And that turned out well.

The little logical loophole you've created for yourself is unimpressive. You have no powers, you have no "things." You are in no way special.

You could prove me wrong. You won't, though, because you know I'm right.
 
Loss Leader said:
Then why bring up your "things that could qualify" at all? You say you want to protect your privacy and that your "things" are more important than money, but you still mention them here. You could have spoken entirely in hypotheticals; you chose not to.

I submit that you are being dishonest, perhaps unknowingly. You clearly want to be recognized, you want to be validated. You just don't want to have to have your "things" subjected to any real, objective review. The most likely reason is that you are afraid you would not pass such a test.

Your lack of desire for money may be laudable, but what of the good that such money could do for your favorite charity? Surely, the March of Dimes could use a million dollars. And what of all the people in the world who could benefit from hearing your message? Moses did not keep God's words to himself; he shared them with his people. And that turned out well.

The little logical loophole you've created for yourself is unimpressive. You have no powers, you have no "things." You are in no way special.

You could prove me wrong. You won't, though, because you know I'm right.
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ROFL.. AYE ure wrong. LOL hahaha..

actually i was referring to PC as examples....

Who is Moses? ..

lol
 
Dear Fellow Forumers,

It is now 9:00 pm, Saturday, 2007 February 24, in Australia. Like you, I have been eager to know the response of the spirit. It has been two weeks since I sent the snail mail to the woman medium in the Philippines.

Through a friend in Freemont, California, I was able to get the telephone number of a married couple who used to listen to the spirit since about 1973 and now resides in the city of Pittsburg in the San Francisco Bay Area also. I called the couple and talked to the wife. From her, I obtained the telephone number of the woman in the Philippines.

This afternoon, I was able to talk to the woman medium in the Philippines and asked her if she had received my letter. She said no. The letter might have been stolen in the mail. This is not unusual in the Philippines especially if the letter comes from overseas. I asked her to ask the spirit if He is willing to undergo a test. She said that she will ask the spirit and asked me to call again next weekend (March 3 or 4).

So by next week, we will know if the spirit would be willing to undergo a test of JREF. I hope He agrees.

I will keep you posted of any developments. Thank you for your kind waiting.

Best regards,
Aristeo Canlas Fernando, Peace Crusader and Echo
 
Dear GzuzKryzt and Fellow Forumers,

GzuzKryzt said:
And I will break out the metaphorical squad cars and MPs to force, oops, I mean: kindly and gently redirect the thread back on topic. ;)
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I appreciate your efforts to keep the thread on track and not be derailed by many off-topics.

This is a distinctive mark of quality of a leader to keep the discussion on the topic and not be side-tracked. You must be a good leader.

Best regards,
Aristeo Canlas Fernando, Peace Crusader and Echo
 
Dear Loss Leader and Fellow Forumers,

Loss Leader said:
Then why bring up your "things that could qualify" at all? You say you want to protect your privacy and that your "things" are more important than money, but you still mention them here. You could have spoken entirely in hypotheticals; you chose not to.

I submit that you are being dishonest, perhaps unknowingly. You clearly want to be recognized, you want to be validated. You just don't want to have to have your "things" subjected to any real, objective review. The most likely reason is that you are afraid you would not pass such a test.

Your lack of desire for money may be laudable, but what of the good that such money could do for your favorite charity? Surely, the March of Dimes could use a million dollars. And what of all the people in the world who could benefit from hearing your message? Moses did not keep God's words to himself; he shared them with his people. And that turned out well.

The little logical loophole you've created for yourself is unimpressive. You have no powers, you have no "things." You are in no way special.

You could prove me wrong. You won't, though, because you know I'm right.
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Although the response above of Loss Leader was for Pro7, I wish to give my comments.

My experience is real and is not exclusive to me. Other people are present also in our sessions with the spirit. After eleven years, in 1994, I have accepted that that spirit is none other than the spirit of Jesus Christ.

I am sharing to the world through the Internet the messages of the spirit. You may read many of them in my website. I do not have the wisdom and ability to say such things as what the spirit said.

I come to this forum to present Him that He can easily name all that may be put in sealed boxes. I have much confidence that that will be very easy for Him, that is why I even proposed that naming ALL items correctly will be a sign of success and anything wrong, even one, will be a sign of failure. So by next week, we will know if He would agree to undergo the JREF test.

Best regards,
Aristeo Canlas Fernando, Peace Crusader and Echo
 
Dear Jackalgirl and Fellow Forumers,

Jackalgirl said:
Hi, Norm --

Well, in this case, PC isn't actually talking about an idea (like a scientific hypothesis or suspicion that someone else's hypothesis or theory is incorrect). He's talking about an ability; namely, the ability to see what is in 25 sealed boxes without using any devices. He claims that it's the Spirit and it might be, or it might not be -- if it's not, he (or the lady in the PI, to be more exact) is remote-viewing (also paranormal) or clairvoyant (also paranormal) or has a particularly fine-grained extremely long-distance telekenetic ability (also paranormal), or has otherwise invented a device that operates on principals contrary to our current knowledge of physics (also paranormal). So I think we're pretty safe here.
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I do not have the ability to know what would be in the sealed boxes. The spirit does not appropriate my body, but He does with the woman in the Philippines. So when He is in the woman's body, then He can talk to us. If He agrees to the test, the next question might be where the test would be done. The woman might be in the Philippines, and the boxes brought to the Philippines, or might be in the US. Or the woman might go to the US and the contents of the boxes identified there.

If the spirit agrees to the JREF test, JREF may bring as many witnesses to the test, including yourselves. I would suggest that video recorders, audio recorders, cameras, and even television crew be present to record and authenticate the test.

Best regards,
Aristeo Canlas Fernando, Peace Crusader and Echo
 
PeaceCrusader said:
If the spirit agrees to the JREF test, JREF may bring as many witnesses to the test, including yourselves. I would suggest that video recorders, audio recorders, cameras, and even television crew be present to record and authenticate the test.

Best regards,
Aristeo Canlas Fernando, Peace Crusader and Echo
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Providing, of course, the next letter doesn't also get "lost in the mail."
 
I can't believe that we have descended to the level of waiting for a "spirit" to give us the ok for a challenge. Why persist with such delusions.
 
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