Bodhi Dharma Zen
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mayday said:
Well, I could say that if you personally have discarded any other possible explanation, and if you are a professional photographer (you know about all the possible effects related to the lens, flash light, reflections, etc), then the effort will be appreciated.
On the other hand if a picture can be easily explained by something as simple as a reflection, then dont bother.
In all honesty, YES. We're going to be skeptical of such photos and first look for an explanation in terms of known artifacts.
The thing is, that is exactly what ghost hunter web sites tell you to do. They tell you to be hugely skeptical of your own photos, to rule out known artifacts. [size=+1]The believers advise you to do this.[/size]
Have you done this? Do you have photos for which you have ruled out the known artifacts? Can you give us at least a little insight into what makes you think the orb you claim is real is not one of the known orb-causing artifacts? Same thing for your wraiths. HOW HAVE YOU RULED OUT ARTIFACTS?
By my count, I've asked you to address this three times now.
The thing is, that is exactly what ghost hunter web sites tell you to do. They tell you to be hugely skeptical of your own photos, to rule out known artifacts. [size=+1]The believers advise you to do this.[/size]
Have you done this? Do you have photos for which you have ruled out the known artifacts? Can you give us at least a little insight into what makes you think the orb you claim is real is not one of the known orb-causing artifacts? Same thing for your wraiths. HOW HAVE YOU RULED OUT ARTIFACTS?
By my count, I've asked you to address this three times now.
cedric_owl
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I personally am VERY suspicious of any photographic evidence that depicts something that the photographer himself did not actually see. Which is my biggest problem with Mayday's initial boast. At the moment Mayday is openly speculating that some anomolies are in fact ghosts.
Well I for one would really like to see these photographs. I don't feel we can discuss them in much more detail without, er, seeing them.
Maybe they are clearly a dragonfly, maybe they will be extremely compelling evidence of ghosts.
Please Mayday just post them so we can talk about the actual photos, rather than just what everyone imagines they are going to look like.
What everyone thinks the photos are going to show is pretty much irrelevant until we actually see them.
Maybe they are clearly a dragonfly, maybe they will be extremely compelling evidence of ghosts.
Please Mayday just post them so we can talk about the actual photos, rather than just what everyone imagines they are going to look like.
What everyone thinks the photos are going to show is pretty much irrelevant until we actually see them.
Gaga
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mayday said:
Excuse me, I don't mean to be blunt but if that's your opinion, why on earth are you posting your claims in the first place?
Just to see how colorfully can the folks here react?
Pls put up a couple of your photos and we'll have something to discuss about, without them it's pointless...
gaga
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Yeah, Bigfig, I remember you posting those. Not very convincing, but maybe the new ones are better.mayday said:Do you really want me to post it? Will you appreciate it? Because it is a pain in the ass to go through all the Kodak pics, then save the pics, then post the pics on my website...all knowing full well that when I post it all the skeptimaniacs will do is tell me it's black when I know that it's white...
I posted some good pics a few years ago that showed clear apparitions and got the same kind of cig smoke fog condensing water responses that I already know I will get before I even go to the trouble of posting anything.
That song by the Kinks is coming to mind now....back where we started, here we go round again....day after day I get up and I say...do it again do it again do it again...
Hans
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Mayday, or whoever you are: I am yanking your chain. You say you have evidence for ... ghosts or whatever ..., but you refuse to present it. What does that make you? How did you really, really expect us to react? "Geeze, Mayday sez she took a pic of a ghost! Heureka, ghosts are real!mayday said:
"Get real.
Hans
mayday,
Instead here, you can also try for $ one million prize, if you can prove. It may be better to keep 'ghosts' or 'their secrets' bit secret. If you noticed their presence, it can be personal for you & they may not like their open exposures. I recently felt somewhat bad happenings just after start of this topic & so have to appologize from them, openly. So pls take care.
Instead here, you can also try for $ one million prize, if you can prove. It may be better to keep 'ghosts' or 'their secrets' bit secret. If you noticed their presence, it can be personal for you & they may not like their open exposures. I recently felt somewhat bad happenings just after start of this topic & so have to appologize from them, openly. So pls take care.
No, I didn't tell you that you were too late, I merely expressed my opinion on the matter and when I asked you if you were sure, I wanted you to think about it.Kumar said:But you are asking two opposites. First telling I am too late & second, If I am sure. If too late, what is the point of asking 'for sure'?