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Can Soul, Ghosts Exist?

Originally posted by Kumar: Just consider reflected/emitted light from a body(dead or alive) as specific/charactristic pattern of colours/WLs alike as we get image on phtographic paper. How it can persist & stay in atmosphere unchanged, we need to understand it.
Kumar, reflected and emitted light does not persist in the atmosphere unchanged! You already know this from your own experience. You turn out the light, and no reflected light remains to enter your eyes. You remove the picture and no reflected light remains to enter your eyes. The way light behaves is well known.

If you want to believe in ghosts, fine. Imagine any kind of imaginary basis for their existence that you want. But why do you ask all these questions about science and use words like reflection and emission as if you are seriously thinking about them, when you really plan to ignore it all? You are being a fake.

Why am I such an idiot to fall for this again.
 
flume said:
Kumar, reflected and emitted light does not persist in the atmosphere unchanged! You already know this from your own experience. You turn out the light, and no reflected light remains to enter your eyes. You remove the picture and no reflected light remains to enter your eyes. The way light behaves is well known.


Allready Reflected/emitted light is an energy which can't be destroyed... But how it can remain unchanged is bit unclear.
 
PixyMisa said:
Me. Oh, and many thousands of working physicists and chemists, and hundreds of thousands of educated laymen.

No and no.

Several concepts are still unclear & not yet absolute inspite of all this. So NO, no no but not yet.
 
Kumar: said:
Allready Reflected/emitted light is an energy which can't be destroyed... But how it can remain unchanged is bit unclear.
You are pretending again.
I just hope you don't help your kids with their science homework.
 
Ashles said:
A)
B)
or
C)

Hmm...

You know, I really still can't decide which.

Let me try.

(A); Do you endorss & agree on that, killing of any botanical & zoological existance is just KILLING in science? Keeping aside human's self & vested interest, if killing is wrong, then killing of every thing is wrong?
 
Kumar said:
Several concepts are still unclear & not yet absolute inspite of all this. So NO, no no but not yet.
There are things we know, and things we don't know.

One thing we know for certain is that your concept of "Prime Energy" is pure nonsense.

It's not a question of "not yet". It's rubbish now, it was rubbish a hundred years ago, and it will still be rubbish a century from now.
 
flume said:
You are pretending again.
I just hope you don't help your kids with their science homework.

Actually, Souls, Ghosts & alike are very powerful forces so they may deviate us by knowing those in science. Evidant by moving of this topic from science forum to here.
 
Kumar said:
Actually, Souls, Ghosts & alike are very powerful forces so they may deviate us by knowing those in science.
No.

There is no evidence that either souls or ghosts exist. And considerable evidence that they cannot.
Evidant by moving of this topic from science forum to here.
No.
 
Kumar said:
Actually, Souls, Ghosts & alike are very powerful forces so they may deviate us by knowing those in science. Evidant by moving of this topic from science forum to here.
This is why you should save yourself trouble, and stop asking about science..

Why even bother, if you think the powerful forces of ghosts might deviate the knowledge. In fact, you might even anger them by asking. Probably it would be safer for you to just make things up that sound nice to you.
 
Kumar said:
Actually, Souls, Ghosts & alike are very powerful forces so they may deviate us by knowing those in science. Evidant by moving of this topic from science forum to here.
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flume said:
This is why you should save yourself trouble, and stop asking about science..

Why even bother, if you think the powerful forces of ghosts might deviate the knowledge. In fact, you might even anger them by asking. Probably it would be safer for you to just make things up that sound nice to you.

You are not wrong in existing sense. It is also same in other energy based systems or HIS systems. So ultimate result is alike this. Even then we indulge in these. It may be because;

God creates, nurses and destroys the universe. God is omnipresent, omniscient and omnipotent and almighty, beyond description, beyond imagination, and beyond calculation.
 
Btw, what about 'Mechnical Waves' from a body? Can these be released on death in any form & persist in atmosphere? I have heard something like that sound can persist for long, people tried to re-code it from atmosphere?

What is Ultrasound?

Ultrasound or ultrasonography is a medical imaging technique that uses high frequency sound waves and their echoes. The technique is similar to the echolocation used by bats, whales and dolphins, as well as SONAR used by submarines. In ultrasound, the following events happen:
The ultrasound machine transmits high-frequency (1 to 5 megahertz) sound pulses into your body using a probe.
The sound waves travel into your body and hit a boundary between tissues (e.g. between fluid and soft tissue, soft tissue and bone).
Some of the sound waves get reflected back to the probe, while some travel on further until they reach another boundary and get reflected.
The reflected waves are picked up by the probe and relayed to the machine.
 
Kumar said:
Btw, what about 'Mechnical Waves' from a body? Can these be released on death in any form & persist in atmosphere? I have heard something like that sound can persist for long, people tried to re-code it from atmosphere?

What is Ultrasound?
German soldiers in WW2 re-coding atmospheric ultrasound.

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British WW2 atmospheric ultrasound re-coder. Note strained look on operator's face having to put up with Kumar's crap all day long.

soundlocator.jpg
 
Zep said:
British WW2 atmospheric ultrasound re-coder. Note strained look on operator's face having to put up with Kumar's crap all day long.
Yea, Kumar must be broadcasting his nonsense in some sort of ultrasound format.
 
Kumar said:
Let me try.

(A); Do you endorss & agree on that, killing of any botanical & zoological existance is just KILLING in science? Keeping aside human's self & vested interest, if killing is wrong, then killing of every thing is wrong?
Then you'd better commit suicide now as every second you are alive you are killing infections, bacteria, harmless microbes etc.
also when you eat you eat plants and animals (or did you think food grew on supermarket shelves).
Do you wash? Clean your toilet? Do the dishes? Hoover the carpet? Wash your sheets?

So 'killing is wrong' is very much your opinion and not actual fact. And, simply by being alive, you are killing all the time.

Another poor argument by Kumar with no intelligent thought behind it.

I have decided.
Both B) AND C)
 
Originally posted by Ashles
A)
B)
or
C)

Hmm...

You know, I really still can't decide which.

Posted by Kumar in response
Let me try.

(A); Do you endorss & agree on that, killing of any botanical & zoological existance is just KILLING in science? Keeping aside human's self & vested interest, if killing is wrong, then killing of every thing is wrong?
Since option A) was "He understands fully, but is trying to wind you up," this post of Kumar's makes it look as if option B): "He is a moron incapable of understanding anything" is the most likely of the three to be correct.
 
Kumar said:
Since you are not sure & absolute about harsh chemical based substance, it can't be sure & absolute that you may not found yourself as fool,idiot,illetrate or gulliable at some later date. So just remain bit silent in commenting with surety & adversily.
The whole point about evidence-based medicine is that it is not "absolute." The decision whether to use a medicine depends upon the evidence available at the time. If you were to wait for absolute proof that something is completely safe before using it, you would never be able to use anything at all, as there would always be the possibility that evidence of adverse effects could be found tomorrow.

You are the one who keeps bringing the word "absolute" into things. Scientists are not so arrogant as to assume that their knowlege is flawless. A current theory can always be overturned if evidence contradicting it comes to light. If you knew anything at all about science you would know this. It's how science works!

Anyone who claims that their knowlege is "absolute" is betraying an intention to ignore any future evidence. Perhaps this has something to do with the fact that homeopathy hasn't changed significantly since Hahnemann's time.
 
Kumar said:
Btw, what about 'Mechnical Waves' from a body? Can these be released on death in any form & persist in atmosphere?
No, forget that. The only answer is insects. There must be an unknown species of tiny swarming gnats with reflective, almost transparent wings, and the ability to produce light either by emission like fireflies or through some fluorescent or phosphorescent molecule in dim light. In some UNCLEAR way, the spirit of the ghost can communicate with the swarm and cause them to briefly fly together in the shape of the dead person.
 
Ashles said:
Then you'd better commit suicide now as every second you are alive you are killing infections, bacteria, harmless microbes etc.
also when you eat you eat plants and animals (or did you think food grew on supermarket shelves).
Do you wash? Clean your toilet? Do the dishes? Hoover the carpet? Wash your sheets?

So 'killing is wrong' is very much your opinion and not actual fact. And, simply by being alive, you are killing all the time.

Another poor argument by Kumar with no intelligent thought behind it.

I have decided.
Both B) AND C)

But where I said as you interpreted. You made hell to heaven. Why you bring sentiments & emotions in between, when I try to discuss your concept in science. Frankly you don't want to solve your problems in your ego or in your skepticism. I was thinking about logic & science of Az... Anyway undue & unrequired killing can be wrong-whether botanical or zoological. But what is undue & unrequired--we have to find out. I just look at killing causing nature imbalance & what interfere in reproduction/progress of nature, as somewhat real killing. You can compare habits of other species in their 'balance state'. Moreover, Fruits, honey, nector, minerals, remains after true death or left...etc are not killing.
 

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