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Buzz lightyear and the JREF Challenge

The polygon formations occur in what is referred to as " Hawkesbury sandstone " . They are composed of pure white quartz crystals . The nearest mudstone is about 100 meters below this in the " Narrabeen " formation .
The formation that you thought was possibly " cave travertines" also occurs in this material .
There is the odd shale lens in this material , but none sufficently thick enough to have formed a layer over the polygons which has been eroded .
The formations occur on the top of the ridges in the foreground of the attatched pic .
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buzz lightyear said:
The polygon formations occur in what is referred to as " Hawkesbury sandstone " . They are composed of pure white quartz crystals . The nearest mudstone is about 100 meters below this in the " Narrabeen " formation .
The formation that you thought was possibly " cave travertines" also occurs in this material .
There is the odd shale lens in this material , but none sufficently thick enough to have formed a layer over the polygons which has been eroded .
The formations occur on the top of the ridges in the foreground of the attatched pic .
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Thank you. That was the information I needed. This morphology is called tesselated pavement.

Tesselated pavements are formed by weathering and erosion. Shrinking and swelling of clays slowly separate an old rock surface into smaller sections.

You can see a good example of a tessellated pavement just beside the walkway from Putty Beach to Bullimah Beach. It's on rocks of the Terrigal formation (the uppermost strata of the Narrabeen group) on a cliff edge about 10 m above the breaking waves.

It was probably formed after the removal of the rock strata above. This would have released the pressure on the lower rocks after millions of years. This then caused expansion of the sandstone and cracking of the surface to produce a geometrical pattern.
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This is similar to the forces that create the polygonal columnar basalts that I showed you earlier. As unloading occurs and pressure is released, rocks expand and often break in regular patterns, almost like crystal cleavage planes.

There you go. Mystery solved.
 
Little 10 Toes said:
Still waiting for you to reveal something for the last 261 messages.

Also, you mentioned in msg #140 "Unfortunately the Arabs pretty well buggered it [the Great Pyramid], but it still ran well enough for me to get through to Rose Crowley back in 1904." and in msg #427 you say "From my own experience a disincarnate entity will not inhabit the body with a corrupted soul . Crowley was definately this ." Comments in [] are to clarify what you were talking about.

Because the only way you are able to travel back in time is to inhabit someone's body, (msg #140) how were you able to get through to Rose when you leave your body behind when you " trip " ? I assume you are talking about Rose since that is the last Crowley you mentioned. And why does Wikipedia not mention that Rose was contacted in the Great Pyramid?
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Why haven't you answered any of my questions in my previous post?

buzz lightyear said:
Crowley spent a night with Rose in the great pyramid in 1903 .
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But you were a year late. (msg #140)
buzz lightyear said:
During the evening he performed an " invocation " which he claimed produced sufficient light for them to see by . He also lamented that nothing else happened.
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Because he was a year early?
buzz lightyear said:
The following autum he performed the same " invocation " , this time Rose become delerious and told him that ' they ' wanted to communicate with him . The story goes on how this entity " Awasis" dictated "The Book of The Law " .
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Who is "they"? Wikipedia: "Crowley wrote The Book of the Law on April 8, 9, and 10, between the hours of noon and 1:00 pm. The place was the flat where he and his new wife were staying for their honeymoon, which he described as being near the Boulak Museum in a fashionable European quarter of Cairo, let by the firm Congdon & Co. The apartment was on the ground floor, and the "temple" was the drawing room." Not in the pyramid, but his den.
buzz lightyear said:
Somewhere in my cosmic adventures I have ended up with Egyptian contacts.
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Still waiting for proof of anything stated in this sentence. *ANY PROOF*
buzz lightyear said:
And since the great pyramid is the only man made acoustic vessel in that area I'm taking a punt that this is where I ended up.
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Wikipedia shows that there are at least three pyramids on the map. It also mentions that the Great Pyramid is the oldest of the three big pyramids.
buzz lightyear said:
So far I have been using this " Book of The Law " as an operators manual for outworld adventures and it has proved to be spot on . So the thought that I organised its production is very appealing .
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You weren't even at the right spot in the Time-Space Continuum(tm) to have helped in the writing of this book, eventhough the book was written in the past.

And still waiting for answers from you. Why are we now talking about rocks?
 
Sorry Tricky , the description of the tesselated pavements and the theory of how they originated in the Narrabeen sandstones is probably correct .
But he picture on the other website is of the Hawkesbury sandstones which are the overlying formation . It is the removal of this structure that is supposed to have cause the cracking in the lower layers .
The tesselations in the Hawkesbury sandstone are found on the tops of the ridges far back into the Blue Mountains .
So your cracking from the release of pressure theory doesnt apply .
The pic is of the tesselations in the Narrabeen group .
 
buzz lightyear said:
Sorry Tricky , the description of the tesselated pavements and the theory of how they originated in the Narrabeen sandstones is probably correct .
But he picture on the other website is of the Hawkesbury sandstones which are the overlying formation . It is the removal of this structure that is supposed to have cause the cracking in the lower layers .
The tesselations in the Hawkesbury sandstone are found on the tops of the ridges far back into the Blue Mountains .
So your cracking from the release of pressure theory doesnt apply .
The pic is of the tesselations in the Narrabeen group .[URL]http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/imagehosting/1432345dd7967df7bc.bmp[/URL]
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Removal of the structure? That's pressure release, Buzz. And surely you don't believe that just because something is on the top now, that it has always been there. Quartzites are not deposited. Quartzites are low-grade metamorphosed sands which have been transformed by heat and (of course) pressure. When the sediments over them were eroded, the pressure was released, though the end of metamorphism could have come for a number of reasons. But simply put, surface layers don't get metamorphosed. It doesn't get hot or squeezed enough.
 
As much as I would like to seperate the geology from the cosmic waffle , Reno , it is not possible .
My main purpose in participating in this forum is to ultimately raise funds to research the sandstones . At the moment the only way to do this is to hustle Randi for his " mill ". To do this I have to prove some sort of paranormal feat , he isnt interested in geological abnormalities .
My paranormal "trick" is that my understanding of the sandstone was derived form what would probably be termed " channeling " .

And Tricky, I have also found where sandstone is forming without pressure and or heat . In the attatched pic the stone is engulfing debris as it grows . I believe it is known as " beach rock " . It forms a mass as hard as the surrounding sandstone .
 
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As much as I would like to seperate the geology from the cosmic waffle , Reno , it is not possible .
My main purpose in participating in this forum is to ultimately raise funds to research the sandstones . At the moment the only way to do this is to hustle Randi for his " mill ". To do this I have to prove some sort of paranormal feat , he isnt interested in geological abnormalities .
My paranormal "trick" is that my understanding of the sandstone was derived form what would probably be termed " channeling "
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Channelling rocks? LOL. Just focus on Sylvia Browne's head.

Seriously, I don't think you're going to be able to show anything paranormal about the origin of rocks, especially in non-geologic time.

But I am going to accept the pointed invitation to leave this thread. If you want to start a geology thread elsewhere, let me know.
 
buzz lightyear said:
As much as I would like to seperate the geology from the cosmic waffle , Reno , it is not possible .
My main purpose in participating in this forum is to ultimately raise funds to research the sandstones . At the moment the only way to do this is to hustle Randi for his " mill ". To do this I have to prove some sort of paranormal feat , he isnt interested in geological abnormalities .
My paranormal "trick" is that my understanding of the sandstone was derived form what would probably be termed " channeling " .

And Tricky, I have also found where sandstone is forming without pressure and or heat . In the attatched pic the stone is engulfing debris as it grows . I believe it is known as " beach rock " . It forms a mass as hard as the surrounding sandstone . [URL]http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/imagehosting/thum_1432345de57d4dc306.jpg[/URL]
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:jaw-dropp Oh my GOSH!!!! It took you over 11 pages of junk (including you denying you had a Challange) to get you to say, "Let's find out where sandstones come from"! Why didn't you say that in the first place?

Again, why haven't you answered my questions about statements *YOU* brought up about Egypt, pyramids, Aussie mythos and everything else. I guess you were hoping we would all die by "Death Of A Thousand Topics"?

I am so disapointed in you Buzz. I was hoping you would give us something good.

If you want money to look into where the rocks came from, go somewhere else until you have something that can be tested. Talk to the other people at the Cosmic Waffle House (tm) to get money from them. Your " trick " (to my belief) cannot be tested. Get proof first that there is a " cosmic waffle ", then order a side of bacon.

(heh, Cosmic Waffle House... I like that. )
 
Ha , Ha ,Ha, Ha , ...............I f...ken knew it !
Bloody skeptics are really closet woos .
Give em some reality and what do they want ? .....the cosmic !
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buzz lightyear said:
Ha , Ha ,Ha, Ha , ...............I f...ken knew it !
Bloody skeptics are really closet woos .
Give em some reality and what do they want ? .....the cosmic !
......................beautful !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Proof that you have given some reality? And we are not talking " your reality " either.

The only reality you have shown is that there are rocks. YOU have NOT PROVEN they are part of the " cosmic " (whatever that means).
 
Looks like it is just you and me Little 10 Toes . Too much reality for good old Tricky .
And I know where the sandstones come from . For me the extra cash is to enable me to find another particular structure .
As I said the sandstones are the waste materials of this serpent creature . Amongst these wastse is the acoustic vessel that I use to interact with it .
This formation is the birth cahamber or egg casing of the creature . The acoustics were created by it as a communication link . Contained also in this vessel is the residual energy of the creature . Over the last 10 years I have consumed most of this energy in my experiments so I am on the lookout for another of these casings .
At a punt I believe there is another on the top of Mt Roraima and possibly one in the vicinity of Petra . These places are fairly remote and difficult to access so a few bob in pocket would'nt go astray .

Anyway looks like I can forget old Randi's cash so I may as well just enjoy the chat so if you still have any queries , lay them on me .
 
buzz lightyear said:
Looks like it is just you and me Little 10 Toes . Too much reality for good old Tricky .
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As I said, if you want to talk about it on another thread, I will, but i'm not going to hijack this one.

Frankly I have to wonder if you are not just pulling our collective legs. Quartzite is serpent waste? N'yuk n'yuk.
 
Hey Tricky ! you didn't abandon me , awesome !
You got it right with the sandstone being serpent waste . It is just as the blackfellas said " the rainbow serpent carved out the valleys and built up the mountains ".
This critter had a body based on silicon . To obtain the basic materials for its metabolism, it chewed its way through the ancient sediments of the Narrabeen group . Being an airborne creature it roosted on the high spots , its waste building up these areas a bit like the phosphate deposits on Naru .
It also created habitations in this material a bit like a mud wasp does . These habitations take the form of shallow caves that mirror the shape of its body, as in this pic .
 
Tricky said:
Frankly I have to wonder if you are not just pulling our collective legs.
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I've been pretty sure about that from very early on.

Starting off with the pyramids, Buzz slowly worked through a few different lines as his arguments were exploded, ultimately settling on Aborigne versions of the creation story. Being very simple stories from very simple people, Buzz was able to keep up with that, but then he got cocky and tried his hand at geology.

Another failure.

Back to the old drawing board.
 
So what is the problem of discussing the formations on this thread Tricky ?
My cosmic ideas are directly related to the geology . Pretty hard to seperate the two . But if you know a better way to do this , tell me .
 
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