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Buzz lightyear and the JREF Challenge

Big Al said:
Hey, Gzuz, would you mind awfully not doing that? I'm finding it just a leetle irritating.

For my part, I'm just agog to hear why the Australian Aborigines' mythos is so much more believable than those of the Ancient Sumerians, the Hebrews, the Babylonians, the Mayans, the Romans and so on.

So why not enlighten us poor earthbound mortals, Buzz? How did only the Aborigines get it right while everybody else got it wrong?
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Pick me! Pick me! I know!

Buzz is an Aussie and he thinks he can out-Aussie us on "the abos".

But I'm also agog. Aborgine stories are the best - I was asking some christians recently why they believed their BS, handed down for only a handful of centuries in writing, while Aborigine myths have survived for tems of thousands, possibly largely intact and without the written word. (Aside from the obvious pictorial representations)

Go Buzz!
 
Big Al said:
Hey, Gzuz, would you mind awfully not doing that? I'm finding it just a leetle irritating.
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I actually enjoy seeing GzuzKryzt update the number of times buzz has posted since he said he would not post again.

Keep up the count GzuzKryzt!
 
I would be rapt if I had a photograph of a "Wagyl ", Athiest .
But going by the carbon dating of Aboriginal paintings , the last time someone clapped eyes on one of these critters in the "flesh" was about 15,000 years ago .
The geological evidence suggests that this might be 30,000 .

And , no , I'm not trying to out "abo" the aborigines . My trip is to try and wake the dim witted white world, of which I am one , to the truth in their mythology .

Haven't forgotten you Little 10 Toes , will get back to you on the weekend .
 
buzz lightyear said:
My trip is to try and wake the dim witted white world, of which I am one , to the truth in their mythology .
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That sounds unabashedly racist. Why do you posit that Caucasians (specifically European caucasians) are "dim witted"?
And why would you assume that only you among them is enlightned enough to save 'em all?
Very odd.
 
Let's get back to your sci-fi writing Buzz.
I think it's fascinating.
You stated earlier that going to the future was trickier, as this path wasn't linear.
From this we can infer that your path into the past is. Is this correct?
Let's jump ahead so that you still have an out.
My problem with your trip into the past is that, as soon as you reach the point before you started your chant, you would be back in the present,
and "fall out". ;)
Perhaps you are proposing multiple unique paths to the past?
If so, how do you decide which one you will take?
 
Let me put it this way desertyeti ;

When the white people arrived in Australia a couple of hundred years ago the place was pristine .
After being inhabited by humans continuously for probably 100,000 years it was still covered by massive forests . The rivers ran clear and were stocked with fish and crustaceans . The inhabitants only had to spend a few hours a day to fufill their food and shelter requirements .

Today ,the forests are gone , desetification and rising salt levels are destroying the land . The rivers are all polluted and drying up , the fish are gone . And the atmosphere that once protected us from the suns rays has a big bloody hole in it .
And you still tell me that the white man isnt dim witted ?
Oh he is a brainy little bugger , so brainy that he has just about destroyed his environment in his pursuite of consumer goods and he has to put in a 10 hour day to get them .

And up untill this black bugger gave me a good kick up the ass I was just as stupid as the rest of them .
 
Ok, so you're not an Australian after all.

Surely, no Aussie's dumb enough to think that the country was a big forest 200 years ago. It wasn't. It was then, as now, a couple of bloody great deserts joined together to make one really big one.
 
buzz lightyear said:
The rivers ran clear and were stocked with fish and crustaceans . The inhabitants only had to spend a few hours a day to fufill their food and shelter requirements
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The Bunyip and the Yowie played happily in the lush forests and Marree Man & Rainbow Serpent danced all night by the Min Min light.
 
You nedd to turn off the computer and do some travelling , Athiest .
See if you can board an aircraft and negotiate the Tasman , there is a thing out there they call " the real world ". It might surprise you .
 
buzz lightyear said:
You nedd to turn off the computer and do some travelling , Athiest .
See if you can board an aircraft and negotiate the Tasman , there is a thing out there they call " the real world ". It might surprise you .
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Been there, done that. I'm wondering if you have, though.

I'm not saying there are no forests in Oz - I've been in a couple of the larger ones, but Australia wasn't forest-covered within the last million years. Get your facts right, cobber.

I know that settlers, as they did here, cut down enormous amounts of forest, but it was never more than a small percentage of the total land mass in Australia.

Will you get to whatever point you're building up to this time.
 
Paul said:
Now, don't start on me...

...and what does a kind of German terrine have to do with it?

:confused:
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Do you speak german, Paul? Nice.

(Although the term I used poses as a slang expression for what Americans would call "blah", "jabber" or "yap". It's a little harsher, even. The noun would be "Gesülze", the infinitive "sülzen". I was getting tired of typing "blah" or "rant". I'll think of more words to describe Mr. lightyear's oeuvre.)
 
I've modified your post a bit (highlighted bits) to correct it some:

buzz lightyear said:
Let me put it this way desertyeti ;

When the white people arrived in Australia a couple of hundred years ago the place was already heavily modified by the native inhabitants, having suffered mass extinctions, ecological shifts, and destruction of forested environments. After being inhabited by humans continuously for probably 40,000 years, portions of it were still covered by massive forests . The rivers ran clear and didn't need to be stocked with fish and crustaceans becuase they occurred naturally. The inhabitants only had to spend a few hours a day to fufill their food and shelter requirements, despite having exterminated much of the megafauna and destroying much of the original forests with massive fires designed to clear land and help round up said megafauna.

Today , many of the forests are gone , desertification and rising salt levels, similar to those encountered by the original inhabitants in the Pleistocene, when sea level was up to 100 meters higher than now, are modifying the land . Many of the rivers are all polluted and drying up , and in some cases, the fish are in decline. And the atmosphere that once protected us from the sun's rays has a big bloody hole in it that changes size and shape, and may actually be related to magnetic field anomalies.
And you still tell me that the white man isn't dim witted ?
Oh he is a brainy little bugger , so brainy that he has just about destroyed his environment in his pursuit of consumer goods and he has to put in an 8 hour day to get them .

And up untill this black bugger gave me a good kick up the ass I was just as stupid as the rest of them .
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Summation: "Things changed when Europeans arrived, just like things changed when the first abos arrived. But because the abos are dark-skinned, they're good. Since the Europeans were light-skinned, they're bad. Therefore, all light-skinned people of European descent are bad."
O.k., thanks for clearing that up.
You are indeed a very dogmatic racist.
 
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GzuzKryzt said:
Deal with it, Big Al.
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It's not the epilogue count, GK: it's all the leading zeroes - they swamp out the number itself. I just keep seeing "3" REBAR ON 4' CENTERS", "MASSIVE BOX COLUMNS" and other Christopheraean mantras. :covereyes

Anyway, I don't believe you ever existed. You're just a rehash of ancient scriptural legends of Mithraz and Horuz... :p
 
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