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This seems to fall somewhat short of the full independent inquiry requested by Bush's opponents.
This seems to fall somewhat short of the full independent inquiry requested by Bush's opponents.
Bush to lead disaster inquiry
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And just in case you were wondering whether Bush is going to hold anyone in any way responsible for anything (perish the thought) he has this reassurance for us all: "the enquiry won’t be pointing the finger at anyone". Isn't that wonderful? Before hearing the first bit of evidence, he's decided what the conclusion's to be. Hey, sometimes the man can act fast.
I was taken aback when I first read a report of this and I thought it was probably misreported however I then saw and heard a news clip and yep he said he would be leading it.
I do think it is wrong that he should lead it - does the USA system not have the equivalent of a "public inquiry"?
I do think it is wrong that he should lead it - does the USA system not have the equivalent of a "public inquiry"?
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He can start by asking himself why the August 26th Statement on Federal Emergency Assistance for Louisiana (seeWhite House link) went to the trouble of listing 39 specific parrishes in Louisiana but did not list any coastal parrish or any parrish touching a coastal parrish. parrish map Why go to the trouble of listing every parrish north of New Orleans by no parrishes directly west or south of New Orleans?
The day after the hurricane hit, Nero---I mean Bush---was at a Republican fundraiser in San Diego. I wonder how the Bush apologists will excuse his gross incompetence this time?
They will find a way to excuse it, of course. The man is a saint. Just ask them.
They will find a way to excuse it, of course. The man is a saint. Just ask them.
Mark said:
The levees didn't BREAK until a day after the storm had passed. How's that for an "excuse"? You know, that the bulk of the actual disaster hadn't happened yet?
Sheesh, some people won't be pleased until W puts on a cape and repairs the levees with his heat vision.
Mark said:...and there you go.
It would have been a nice gesture if he would have bothered to even notice that a disaster of biblical proportions was unfolding. But that was to much to expect, I guess.
Thank you for proving my point.
It... hadn't... unfolded... yet. What part of that don't you get?
What size cape do you wear, Mark?
Jocko said:
Oh, give me a break!
EVEN I KNEW there would be a disaster there!!!!! And you think Bush didn't?
"Hey, Mr. President, a possible Category 5 hurricane is going to hit New Orleans, and the levees are only built to withstand a category 3! What should we do?"
Bush: "Well, I am going to a Republican fund raiser in California. Not to worry! When the disaster hits, my minions will just excuse my behavior anyway."
Fictional conversation...but that is in effect what happened.
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It will probably be a big "cover your butt" festival and the mayor/governer who are probably the due the majority of the blame here won't be assigned it. You will notice the administration is much classier than the local governments. The administration makes nice PC "lies" like nobody could have foreseen yadda yadda yadda. Meanwhile, the locals just pass the buck up the feds.
Count me among the clueless. It seemed as if N.O. had lucked out. Then a day or so later everything hit the fan.Mark said:
Even though it is apparent (to me) that there have been big time screw-ups, the main screw-up (imo) is centuries in the making -- a coastal city beneath sea level in a hurricane region. And then a perfect storm.
Why should Barbour and Nagin get the bulk of the blame? Look, the whole point of putting FEMA into the Department of Homeland Security was that there would be a single organization that could respond when really bad stuff happened. Something really bad happened, and FEMA and the DHS screwed up royally. Did the governor and mayor make mistakes? Yes. But you can’t get around the fact that FEMA and DHS didn’t do their jobs.corplinx said:
varwoche said:
I saw Brian friggin' Williams of NBC standing up to his ankles, expressing an almost embarrassed "whew!" on the Today show. The skies were sunny and the damage minor... almost a full day after the storm blew away.
This is not to excuse the foulups that started in Nagin's office and go all the way up to FEMA, but expecting Bush to have his boots on the ground the instant the hurricane hit - as Mark seems to insist would be proper - is nothing short of ridiculous.
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Mark/Jocko,
When was this fundraiser? I'm having trouble finding references online.
When was this fundraiser? I'm having trouble finding references online.
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Well, you said Katrina hadn't hit yet. What are you basing that on, then?Jocko said:
Upchurch said:
No, I said the levees hadn't BROKEN yet. The storm had passed.
As to what I'm basing my argument on, it's simple. Mark said Bush spent the day after the hurricane strike at a GOP fundraiser/plotting the downfall of humanity/eating babies/whatever.
Everyone in N.O. spent the day after the hurricane breathing a collective sigh of relief. I remember it, Varwoche remembers it, most people within reach of TV transmissions remember it.
These two events took place on the same day. Ergo, Mark is blaming Bush for not responding to something that had not happened yet.
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corplinx said:
Hmm... so what you're saying here is that the locals aren't afraid to say what they think the problem was, but the feds dance around the issue and make up nice stories? I think maybe our critical thinking skills could tell us something about who is more worried about the truth of the matter...