Bush economic policy approval soaring

[Jocko]

Regarding two other claims, I repeat:

I pay in Federal three times what I pay in California;

Yes, I see you repeating, but not answering the question. Do you own a home, a car, or buy things in-state?

the newspaper speaks about a lowering of the total national payroll

Which hasn't impacted GDP, which is a primary yardstick for the economy (as opposed to what you discuss around the watercooler while waiting for bluetooth to become officially obsolete... again, Bush's fault).

this quarter with encouraging news is a quarter is not a proven trend out of recession.

As I read things, we've had almost 2 years of slow growth, and two quarters of significant growth. That looks like a trend to me.

And again, are you paying more or less in federal taxes? How much did you put down for that check made out to "Bush's evil imperialist war"?

 

[Ion]

Santa didn't bring you a brain for Christmas? Too bad... maybe next year if you're a good boy!

Any data in this, toxy from New Jersey?

There is none.

 

[Jocko]

Any data in this, toxy from New Jersey?

There is none.

I'd say he's got a wealth of supportive data, yeah.

 

[Ion]

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Which hasn't impacted GDP, which is a primary yardstick for the economy...
...

No, the GDP is not the yardstick for the economy.

Read my criticism about GDP on the previous page.

 

[Ion]

I'd say he's got a wealth of supportive data, yeah.

To your and toxy's pathtic level maybe, naive believers in the GDP.

Not to my level.

Read what I said about GDP on the previous page, and learn.

 

[Ion]

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How much did you put down for that check made out to "Bush's evil imperialist war"?

Ask Bush.

He takes my taxes and wars.

 

[Jocko]

Ask Bush.

He takes my taxes and wars.

Do me a favor, Ion, and let me know soon how long you're going to dodge those simple questions. Question-and-answer is the means by which a debate progresses.

And while you're at it, please explain why the GDP is a meaningless measurement, beyond your criticism that it doesn't agree with your personal experience.

 

[Ion]

Do me a favor, Ion, and let me know soon how long you're going to dodge those simple questions. Question-and-answer is the means by which a debate progresses.

And while you're at it, please explain why the GDP is a meaningless measurement, beyond your criticism that it doesn't agree with your personal experience.

Do me a favor and ask Bush how much tax money he needs for a $100 billion dollars war in Iraq.

Do me a favor and understand what I posted on the GDP:

to be idiotic and naive like you are now, is no further excuse for you.

 

[Troll]

Do me a favor and ask Bush how much tax money he needs for a $100 billion dollars war in Iraq.

Do me a favor and understand what I posted on the GDP:

to be idiotic and naive like you are now, is no further excuse for you.

I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that for a $100 billion dollar war, you need...... hold on I'm trying to do the math here........uh........$100 billion dollars? Do I still need to ask Bush?

 

[Ion]

I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that for a $100 billion dollar war, you need...... hold on I'm trying to do the math here........uh........$100 billion dollars? Do I still need to ask Bush?

troll,

ask Bush.

He will also correct your question.

You are too stupid for me:

I am not a Marine like you, you know?

 

[Troll]

troll,

ask Bush.

He will correct your question.

Your question is too stupid for me.

I guess you are stupid.

Gee, it was you that asked the questions. I merely answered the easy one before someone else could beat me to it.

 

[Ion]

Looks to me that understanding the question of how much money Bush needs to tax me to war in Iraq, that's beyond your Marine IQ.

Do they ask you to learn additions and subtractions too, in the Marines?

Can you jump and bark, too?

 

[Jocko]

Do me a favor and ask Bush how much tax money he needs for a $100 billion dollars war in Iraq.

Do me a favor and understand what I posted on the GDP:

to be idiotic and naive like you are now, is no further excuse for you.

You sound like a guy who got a tax break but wound up in a loser industry. Care to discuss any of that, or can I take it as read? The only thing that astonishes me is that someone like you pulls down 93k a year and has the cajones to bitch about it.

 

[Troll]

Looks to me that understanding the question of how much money Bush needs to tax me to war in Iraq, that's beyond your Marine IQ.

Do they ask you to learn additions and subtractions too, in the Marines?

Can you jump and bark, too?

Adding, subtracting, dividing and conquering.

They also taught me that if I want to ask a question pertaining to myself that I should word it as such. You didn't. Now you want me to ask him how much he needs from you? Well, I would guess it would be a portion of the amount you pay, no more, no less, so don't expect to see your taxes going up because of it.

 

[Ion]

You sound like a guy who got a tax break but wound up in a loser industry. Care to discuss any of that, or can I take it as read? The only thing that astonishes me is that someone like you pulls down 93k a year and has the cajones to bitch about it.

I told you that the overall payroll in U.S. dropped since 2000, not just one industry, not just one place.

As for "...bitch about it.", you have to understand what I bitch about:

.) I have work;

.) people are laid-off;

.) the consumer economy in many fields across U.S., declines since 2000 (no GDP garbage here, see my comments on GDP on the previous page);

.) my taxes fund a war for oil that I don't want.

 

[Ion]

This was understood from the beginning:

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Well, I would guess it would be a portion of the amount you pay, no more, no less, so don't expect to see your taxes going up because of it.

So you didn't add anything to the discussion.

 

[Jocko]

I told you that the overall payroll in U.S. dropped since 2000, not just one industry, noy just one place.

But not explained why that matters to anything outside your own personal space, which you seem to be obsessed with.

DID YOU GET A TAX CUT?

As for "...bitch about it.", you have to understand what I bitch about:

I have work;

Yeah, that really sucks. What's your point?

DID YOU GET A TAX CUT?

people are laid-off;

A normal part of the cycle of the economy, unless you prove differently, which you have not. People are hired, too.

DID YOU GET A TAX CUT?

the consumer economy in many fields across U.S., declines since 2000 (no GDP garbage here, see my comments on GDP on the previous page);

Again, barring any actual evidence from you, the ebb and flow of money to different sectors of the economy is as old as money itself. What makes Bush and 2003 different? I want examples, not what you hear around the office.

DID YOU GET A TAX CUT?

my taxes fund a war for oil that I don't want.

Then vote him out. If your can't, then you're in the minority. Ipso facto. What, should the rest of us take up arms against the government because you're feeling uneasy about your job security? Maybe you should look for another job, learn another skill? You know, like millions of Americans who DON'T have the luxury of a 93k salary?

Yes, this all sounds like bitching to me.

DID YOU GET A TAX CUT?

 

[Troll]

I told you that the overall payroll in U.S. dropped since 2000, not just one industry, noy just one place.

As for "...bitch about it.", you have to understand what I bitch about:

.) I have work;

.) people are laid-off;

.) the consumer economy in many fields across U.S., declines since 2000 (no GDP garbage here, see my comments on GDP on the previous page);

.) my taxes fund a war for oil that I don't want.

I'm laid off, I got called back but had a schedule conflict because I was going back to school. I'm looking into other jobs right now so I'll be reducing the number for ya.

And the consumer economy increases in other fields which is what is spurring the economic turnaround.

My taxes help support art I don't like. Been doing that for longer than this war has gone on. I say we fix that first since it's cost us in the past and will after the war is long paid for and over with.

 

[Ion]

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DID YOU GET A TAX CUT?
...

Looks like whether I got a tax cut is your main question.

I don't know,

I jumped from a $84k job last year to a $93k job this year.

I could compare the taxes in their respective paychecks.

But the thing for me is that I am in the consumer economy, the consumer economy is dying nationwide under Bush, and my taxes pay for Bush's war escapades when he looks for oil and kills.

 

[Jocko]

Looks like whether I got a tax cut is your main question.

I don't know,

I jumped from a $84k job last year to a $93k job this year.

I could compare the taxes in their respective paychecks.

But the thing for me is that I am in the consumer economy, the consumer economy is dying nationwide under Bush, and my taxes pay for Bush's war escapades when he looks for oil and kills.

You're IN the economy. The economy is measured by more than YOU. I've heard of people thinking the world revolves around them, but you're the first one I've encountered who thinks the economy revolves around him.

And you're preaching economic measurement, and don't even know what you pay in taxes. Riiiiiight.

Goodnight, folks, you've been a great audience.