Bush economic policy approval soaring

[Jocko]

The whole of the consumer economy is down.

Just about two times per week The San Diego Unio Tribune says so, annd next time I will keep a San Diego Union Tribune so that I can show you a link,

The U.S. connsumer economy is down.

The total U.S. national payroll is going down since 2000.

As stands San Diego, so stands the nation! Someone alert Wall Street, since the index is sitting atop 13000 and they obviously haven't heard the news.

The only industry more adept at complaining about the "awful economy" than farmers is the tech industry. That hardly makes you the canary in the coal mine. If anything, my work in the advertising industry is a better indicator - and business is up. Way up in some markets. It's a good indication when industry begins spending on marketing again.

 

[Ion]

Apparently, only if I live in San Diego.
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By the way, if you're involved in bluetooth work, things are about to get a lot worse for you- that standard's just about moot by now. Of course, it's all George Bush's fault.

Apparently not only if you live in San Diego, but in Silicon Valley too and all over U.S..

The only companies that move a little are L3Communications, Raytheon, Titan, Lockheed-Martin and General Atomics, doing military work funded by taxes from consumer economy.

Read the Electronic Engineering Times on this.

Yes, is Bush's fault to let the consumer economy pay taxes to death, while he is chasing oil in Iraq.

The superiority of U.S. up until 2000 compared to the rest of the world, was the consumer economy.
Which is fading, nationwide.

 

[Jocko]

Apparently not only if you live in San Diego, but in Silicon Valley too and all over U.S..

Read the Electronic Engineering Times on this.

Yes, is Bush's fault to let the consumer economy pay taxes to death, and chase oil in Iraq.

The superiority of U.S. up until 2000 compared to the rest of the world, was the consumer economy.
Which is fading, nationwide.

A couple of things:

First off, you mentioned one area and one industry. In a machine as massive and complex as the US economy, sorry bud, you mean exactly jack squat. Most hi-tech purchases have been coming from overseas for 20 years anyway. Sorry if you had a lean Christmas, but it's not making a dent on the economic recovery which most certainly is in progress.

Secondly, how much to you pay in local, county and state taxes there in California? Compared to your federal taxes? Even Ahhhnold has figured out that local and state taxes have chased business away, not the Bush Bogeyman.

Thirdly, how much has the was in Iraq cost you? Your company? Inreal, measurable dollars, that is?

Fourth, your "pre-2000" closer sounds nice as sound bites go, but it's a little lacking in details. Explain please?

 

[Ion]

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Secondly, how much to you pay in local, county and state taxes there in California? Compared to your federal taxes? Even Ahhhnold has figured out that local and state taxes have chased business away, not the Bush Bogeyman.
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Let me see a paycheck:

it's $93,600 per year, bi-weekly of $3,600, $681.50 in Federal and $242.70 in California (so three times less in California than in Federal) and FICA of $275.40.

So Bush Bogeyman gets three times more than California.

 

[Jocko]

Let me see a paycheck:

it's $93,600 per year, bi-weekly of $3,600, $681.50 in Federal and $242.70 in California (so three times less in California than in Federal) and FICA of $275.40.

So Bush Bogeyman gets three times more than California.

So I presume your federal taxes have somehow risen while the rest of the nations have stayed the same or dropped. At your salary, I imagine you would have seen a modest drop.

It doesn't matter anyway, until you include your costs in sales tax, property tax, vehicle licensing taxes and all the other things that don't show up on a paycheck stub. Do the math and I think you'll see your problem is a little more local than you suspect.

 

[Ion]

So I presume your federal taxes have somehow risen while the rest of the nations have stayed the same or dropped. At your salary, I imagine you would have seen a modest drop.
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That's what I pay every two weeks.

The total (including CA DIS of $32.40 that I didn't mention yet, whatever CA DIS is) is $1,232, which is over 1/3rd of my paycheck.

So, I give more than 1/3rd in taxes, including $681.50 bi-weekly to Bush (that's in excess of $1,363 every month) so that he can waste it when looking for oil in Iraq and killing Iraqis.

 

[BTox]

consumer economy kept in recession because of this wasteful war.

A pity you don't know what a recession is...

 

[Ion]

A pity you don't know what I know.

 

[BTox]

The whole of the consumer economy is down.

Just about two times per week The San Diego Unio Tribune says so, and next time I will keep a San Diego Union Tribune so that I can show you a link,

The U.S. consumer economy is down.

The San Diego Union Tribune says so? Tinkerbell the fairy tells me you don't know what you're talking about...

 

[BTox]

A pity you don't know what I know.

I know that you know nothing about this topic... you know?

 

[Jocko]

That's what I pay every two weeks.

The total (including CA DIS of $32.40 that I didn't mention yet, whatever CA DIS is) is $1,232, which is over 1/3rd of my paycheck.

So, I give more than 1/3rd in taxes, including $681.50 bi-weekly to Bush (that's in excess of $1,363 every month) so that he can waste it when looking for oil in Iraq and killing Iraqis.

Let me respond by stating again what I stated before:

Repeated issue #1: Own a house? Own a car? Buy anything retail in-state? Those are all taxes which you conveniently ignore.

Repeated issue #2: Are you stating that your taxes have gone up? Or was it okay when Clinton was "wasting" your money in Bosnia, Haiti, etc.?

Repeated issue #3: How much is the war in Iraq costing you, or your employer, in measurable dollars?

BTW, in regard to Btox, I believe the definition of a recession is two consecutive quarters of negative growth (it's been a long time since Econ class, though). I'm not up to date with the scorecard, but the economy is definitely experiencing decent positive growth by pretty much any measure...

... any measure outside of San Diego, that is.

 

[BTox]

That's what I pay every two weeks.

The total (including CA DIS of $32.40 that I didn't mention yet, whatever CA DIS is) is $1,232, which is over 1/3rd of my paycheck.

I don't live in CA but I'd guess that is CA disability insurance. It's usually helpful to know all the deductions from your paycheck.

So, I give more than 1/3rd in taxes, including $681.50 bi-weekly to Bush (that's in excess of $1,363 every month) so that he can waste it when looking for oil in Iraq and killing Iraqis.

You paid more taxes under Clinton, I guess you really complained then, eh?

 

[Jocko]

You paid more taxes under Clinton, I guess you really complained then, eh?

Clinton wasn't his problem, Gray Davis was. Still is, in many ways. Like I said above, even Ahnold understands the suffocation of business by state taxes in CA.

 

[Ion]

I know that you know nothing about this topic... you know?

toxy,

I know that you don't know much:

zero arguments from you, toxy?

You must know though, how does it feel to be a zero?

 

[Ion]

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You paid more taxes under Clinton, I guess you really complained then, eh?

The recession is now, not under Clinton.

 

[BTox]

BTW, in regard to Btox, I believe the definition of a recession is two consecutive quarters of negative growth (it's been a long time since Econ class, though). I'm not up to date with the scorecard, but the economy is definitely experiencing decent positive growth by pretty much any measure...

... any measure outside of San Diego, that is.

Correct about the definition of recession. Here's the scorecard of late, Ion's inane ramblings to the contrary, of course:

 

[Ion]

That idiot is posting GDP:

(this forum is definetily way more naive than infidels.org)

.) the GDP grows when people like me work overtime to compensate without extra pay for laid-off workers;

.) the GDP grows when companies invest in I.T. equipment, which is not a measure of employment;

.) the GDP grows when companies are outsourcing software off-shore, and the executives get rich.

Regarding two other claims, I repeat:

.) I pay in Federal three times what I pay in California;

.) the newspaper speaks about a lowering of the total national payroll;

.) this quarter with encouraging news is a quarter, it is not a proven trend out of the recession.

 

[BTox]

The recession is now, not under Clinton.

Seems that a dose of factual data always sends poor brain-dead Ion scurrying back into his hole...

 

[BTox]

The idiot is posting GDP:

.) GDP grows when people like me work twice to compensate for laid-off workers;

.) the GDP grows when companies invest in I.T. equipment, which is not a measure of employment;

.) the GDP grows when companies are outsourcing off-shore, and the executives get rich.

Regarding two other claims, I repeat:

.) I pay in Federal three times what I pay in California;

.) the newspaper speaks about a lowering of the total national payroll;

.) this quarter with encouraging news is a quarter is not a proven trend out of recession.

Santa didn't bring you a brain for Christmas? Too bad... maybe next year if you're a good boy!

 

[Ion]

toxy,

the recession is now.

Read my post about your imbecility in posting GDP.