Bush Derangement Syndrome?

[BPSCG]

Interesting that you feel both BDS and ODS are traits only exhibited by one side of the political spectrum.

ODS is irrational adoration of Obama and BDS is irrational hatred of Bush. Really?

You don't think there are idiots on both sides of politics?

There are plenty of idiots on both sides.

So you should have no trouble proving your point by providing links to dozens of street demonstrations with people holding up posters of Obama in a Hitler getup and a toothbrush mustache. Or if you're going to claim, as someone did here, that right-wingers were similar in their detestation of Bill Clinton, dozens of street demonstrations with people holding up posters of Clinton in a Hitler getup and a toothbrush mustache.

You'll further prove your point by providing links to people singing "na-na, hey-hey, good-bye" to Bill Clinton on January 20, 2001.

And you'll further prove your point by providing dozens of links to crowds of people going weak-kneed and wet-pantsed in adoration of Bush on September 12, 2001.

I can understand being opposed to Bush and his policies, even being strongly opposed to them, while not sharing those feelings myself.

I can understand supporting Obama and his policies, even strongly supporting them, while not sharing those feelings myself.

But BDS and ODS are irrational furious hatred and messianic adoration.

 

[Tailgater]

Bush derangement syndrom is the reason why I, someone who has voted against Bush and spent quite a bit of energy voicing opinions against him, has to spend so much time on sites like these defending him. I believe, at best, he was a mediocre president, but I end up rolling my eyes to the point that I'm dizzy reading some of the idiotic comments that get thrown around places like here on the politics forum about him. There are people who don't have any concept of magnitude or reasonable criticism and just wish to pile every insult they can on the guy and blame him for whatever they can think of.

That's exactly how I feel.

See "Bush will write a book" thread. It has nothing to do with what type of book he will write, but an argument over how "stooooopid" he is. He might have been a bad President, and being a stuttering speaker didn't help, but he's not stupid. I bet he would do fairly well in an academic competition with most of the people who say he's stupid.

 

[varwoche]

Interesting that you feel both BDS and ODS are traits only exhibited by one side of the political spectrum.

ODS is irrational adoration of Obama and BDS is irrational hatred of Bush. Really?

You don't think there are idiots on both sides of politics?

Perhaps you suffer from BPSCGDS.

Presidential derangement syndrome is born of the internet age, the first blatant instance being the obsessive hatred of all things Clinton -- a syndrome exhibited here frequently to this day. How quickly some forget.

 

[BPSCG]

Presidential derangement syndrome is born of the internet age, the first blatant instance being the obsessive hatred of all things Clinton -- a syndrome exhibited here frequently to this day. How quickly some forget.

Heh. As I asked uk_dave, I'll ask you: If you're going to claim that right-wingers were similar in their detestation of Bill Clinton to left-wingers' detestation of Bush, you'll prove your point by providing links to the dozens of street demonstrations with people holding up posters of Clinton in a Hitler getup and a toothbrush mustache.

And you'll further prove your point by providing links to people singing "na-na, hey-hey, good-bye" to Bill Clinton on January 20, 2001.

I'll be here, waiting.

 

[varwoche]

Heh. As I asked uk_dave, I'll ask you: If you're going to claim that right-wingers were similar in their detestation of Bill Clinton to left-wingers' detestation of Bush, you'll prove your point by providing links to the dozens of street demonstrations with people holding up posters of Clinton in a Hitler getup and a toothbrush mustache.

And you'll further prove your point by providing links to people singing "na-na, hey-hey, good-bye" to Bill Clinton on January 20, 2001.

I'll be here, waiting.

Yeah, waiting at the place where you drew a tiny little bulls eye around the spot where your arrow landed.

 

[BPSCG]

Yeah, waiting at the place where you drew a tiny little bulls eye around the spot where your arrow landed.

Translation: "Sorry, Beeps, I got nothin'."

 

[ponderingturtle]

No it wasn't. I'm so sick of hearing that stupid bs.

I was in Florida too, the "stole the election" ct is just as dumb as 9/11 ct.

He won. Get over it.

So the tens of thousands of blacks improperly stuck from voter rolls at the action of his florida campaign manager and local ellection official wouldn't hav ever mattered.

 

[Just thinking]

I'll be interested to see what the extent of ODS will be: Obama Derangement Syndrome - the acute onset of messianic adoration in otherwise normal people in reaction to the policies, the presidency -- nay -- the very existence of Barack H. Obama.

Don't tell me it doesn't exist.

Oh, it exists, alright ... it just goes by another name, it's Obamamania. The irrational belief that President Obama can do no wrong and will right all that is wrong and not even break a sweat. Of course, to his credit, Obama has started to tone down those expectations from the start in his inaugural address. But to many, that won't matter a bit. Those who have commented that his IQ is off the charts when pressed don't even know what it is. "He is going to be the best president ever" ... and that's after only minutes on the job. I would not be the least bit surprised that if as president, Obama was seen on video committing murder they would blame Bush. So, yes, Beeps, it's out there, ODS, and it's just as irrational as BDS.

 

[Just thinking]

So the tens of thousands of blacks improperly stuck from voter rolls at the action of his florida campaign manager and local ellection official wouldn't hav ever mattered.

And don't forget the media declaring the state in Gore's Favor before the polls in the pan handle (a highly republican demographic) closed.

Also, just out of curiosity, do think Al Frankin is stealing anything?

 

[CFLarsen]

"Bush Derangement Syndrome" is a pleonasm.

It's just "Bush Syndrome". Or "B.S.", abbrev.

 

[Cicero]

"Bush Derangement Syndrome" is a pleonasm.

It's just "Bush Syndrome". Or "B.S.", abbrev.

If a lib had coined the expression, no doubt that would be the predictable prosaic prose. The left has yet to top their sing song slogan, "No Blood For Oil."

 

[varwoche]

Translation: "Sorry, Beeps, I got nothin'."

Funny.

In general, frothed-up lefties call righties nazis and frothed-up righties call lefties commies, which your call for evidence grandly overlooks.

And I can do you one better. You point to random bozos on the street. (As I can easily do too, making a contrary case.) Whereas I can point to a major cable news organization (one guess which one) which falsely claimed that Obama was schooled in a wahhabi madrassa based on a goofy rumor, and didn't even correct the record once the rumor was proven false.

 

[Cicero]

Funny.

In general, frothed-up lefties call righties nazis and frothed-up righties call lefties commies, which your call for evidence grandly overlooks.

And I can do you one better. You point to random bozos on the street. (As I can easily do too, making a contrary case.) Whereas I can point to a major cable news organization (one guess which one) which falsely claimed that Obama was schooled in a wahhabi madrassa based on a goofy rumor, and didn't even correct the record once the rumor was proven false.

Never recovered from your priapism for FOX News.

"Why didn't anybody ever mention that that man right there was raised – spent the first decade of his life, raised by his Muslim father – as a Muslim and was educated in a madrassa."FOX News Steve Ducy -The Weather Guy

CNN thought enough of the story to ask Obama about the madrassa.

Of course The New York Times ran a front page story about McCain having an affair with a staffer that was based on a "goofy rumor."

 

[uk_dave]

Of course the 'Clinton Body Count' is not an example of CDS because....... well, because, I guess it's not fair to tar everyone on the right-wing of politics with that particular derangement.....right?

Likewise any person questioning Obama's nationality or religion or academic past or associations with others, cannot be classed as suffering from ODS because....... well, they just can't, right?

And yet, oddly, people who actually celebrate the election of a president who commands a significant majority amongst the voters are somehow....deranged?

 

[BPSCG]

In general, frothed-up lefties call righties nazis and frothed-up righties call lefties commies, which your call for evidence grandly overlooks.

My "call for evidence" still stands, as you have provided none.

And I can do you one better. You point to random bozos on the street.

No, I point to large crowds of organized bozos.

(As I can easily do too, making a contrary case.)

Please do. Show us the large crowds of organized right-wing bozos, chanting the vilest imaginable about a left-wing president.

Please. Show us the evidence that I've asked for, which you claim to be able to "easily do."

Otherwise, you are dismissed.

 

[BPSCG]

So you should have no trouble proving your point by providing links to dozens of street demonstrations with people holding up posters of Obama in a Hitler getup and a toothbrush mustache. Or if you're going to claim, as someone did here, that right-wingers were similar in their detestation of Bill Clinton, dozens of street demonstrations with people holding up posters of Clinton in a Hitler getup and a toothbrush mustache.

You'll further prove your point by providing links to people singing "na-na, hey-hey, good-bye" to Bill Clinton on January 20, 2001.

And you'll further prove your point by providing dozens of links to crowds of people going weak-kneed and wet-pantsed in adoration of Bush on September 12, 2001.

Of course the 'Clinton Body Count' is not an example of CDS because....... well, because, I guess it's not fair to tar everyone on the right-wing of politics with that particular derangement.....right?

So you're equating some lunatic-fringe right wing bloggers who think Clinton killed Vince Foster with the mobs in the streets equating Bush with Hitler?

You're dismissed.

 

[332nd]

Yeah... Bush has the Hitler mustache. Obama pals around with terrorists.

Bush is called "Chimpy" or "Shrub". Obama is called "BO" or "Barack HUSSIEN... Obama".


Bush isn't the president because he stole the election. Obama isn't president because he's not a citizen.

Only the Democrats do such things. Only the Republicans do such things.

 

[joobz]

I think these xDSs (where x is any specific person or topic) are a byproduct of the Internet and are likely to remain part of our culture.

In the BDS example; People dislike bush, and find others who dislike bush. They start telling each other how much they dislike bush, and that dislike turns to hate. This shared interaction feels good because it's socially rewarding. Along the way, they start to exaggerate the reasons for their hate of Bush so that they can get even more social rewards through the shared hatred of Bush. At some point they believe the exaggerations they invent and have become sensitized to other exaggerations. Anything that feeds this social addition will be easily believed anything that threatens it will be dismissed.

The Internet makes it extremely easy to find people who have similar predispositions and it also removes personal responsibility. People can invent and exaggerate without risk of reputation loss. This allows for a much easier entry way down the path of xDS.


My guess is this will remain. We simply need to educate kids and adults of this social phenomena as a way inoculating them against falling victim to it. Similar to how I believe people should be made aware of how cults work.

The biggest problem I see is that it becomes an easy label to call someone an xDS and therefore dismiss their argument.

 

[Crowlogic]

It's used to refer to those that are a bit ... overzealous ... when it comes to condemning Bush's shortcomings.

Bush was a bad President, you'll get no argument about that from me, but some people carry an unfounded amount of hate and cannot be reasoned with.

Unfounded hate? Well since the Bush administration became an administration of men and not law I'd say that its open season on hating the man. With luck and justice he'll get to know very intimately what the inside of a prison cell looks like.

 

[Cicero]

Unfounded hate? Well since the Bush administration became an administration of men and not law I'd say that its open season on hating the man. With luck and justice he'll get to know very intimately what the inside of a prison cell looks like.

Hey, since Rudolph Hess became the sole prisoner in Spandau, maybe GITMO could remain open to incarcerate Bush in the event this day of retribution should ever arrive.