Originally posted by a_unique_person
Mate, you are one big f**kwit.
Lol!
The point is you keep going on and on about this terrible “price” the Arabs were asked to pay. It’s pure fiction. The truth is the Jews chose a backwards sh!thole to immigrate to, put a ton of work into making it worth something, and the worst hardship the Arabs had to put up with for all the improvement was to have non-Arab neighbors.
You also perpetuate this shallow fiction that Zionism started with the Holocaust and was created out of Western guilt, ignoring the previous 65 years of Zionist history and the centuries of anti-Semitism that culminated in the Holocaust. For all your obsession with the topic, one would think that eventually you’d get around to cracking a book open and learning something of it.
Originally posted by a_unique_person
Ok, so you completely ducked your original point, and started off on a completely new tangent. It had nothing to do with Jewish habition for some indeterminate time in the distant past when various other groups also inhabited the area.
Nope, not my point. You have me confused with someone else.
Originally posted by a_unique_person
The real reason for the legitimacy of the occupation is that the Israelis created a better life for the Arabs.
I don’t call immigration
occupation. That’s something only an ignorant bigot would do.
Nor do I claim that improving the lives of the native Arabs is their claim to legitimacy. That was incidental to building a better life for themselves, but worth mentioning when you start crying
oh poor oppressed Arabs! as though living near someone of a different religion/ethnicity is something so terrible that it’s worth taking up arms to kill over.
In fact, I don’t particularly think that refugees fleeing persecution really need any more legitimacy than just being refugees fleeing persecution.
Think about that for a second. We in the Western World are used to the idea of immigrants wanting to come to our countries. People from South America, Africa, Asia, the Middle East, we’re used to the idea of them wanting to come to America, Europe or Australia to find a better life. Prosperity, freedom, escape from persecution, all that.
The Jews, those early Zionists,
fled the Western World to seek a better life. They went
from Europe,
from America to go to the third world, knowing full well there wasn’t anything there for them except the opportunity to escape where they came from and the chance that someday they might have a place where they could just be.
Something to think about.
