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Bush backs Sharon Peace Proposal

Originally posted by The Fool
Dont lose Heart ZN, your brilliant and incisive reposting of spam news articles and cutting and pasting other people's opinions is bound to win us over eventually...
I have to go out now...as long as that bastard Arafat doesn't make it rain.
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In reading forums I often come across people who are criticized for not documenting the reasons for their opinions. Turning that on its head and criticizing someone for over-documenting their views while making zero comment on their content is a novel approach.

Is the racist card worn out?
 
Mycroft said:


It's less confusing for people willing to do some reading to actually understand the situation.



Pecause there is no country called Palestine. There could be one in the future, but for now to find these area in Countryreports.org you would have to look at Gaza Strip or West Bank.
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That's right, Gaza and West Bank are not Palesting. There is no Palestine in the UN. There is a Palestine Authority. What is that. No country in the world has the status of being an Authority. They are either Governments, or they aren't. The 'Authority' means 'lack of authority'.
 
a_unique_person said:


That's right, Gaza and West Bank are not Palesting. There is no Palestine in the UN. There is a Palestine Authority. What is that. No country in the world has the status of being an Authority. They are either Governments, or they aren't. The 'Authority' means 'lack of authority'.
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Have you been drinking?
 
Mycroft said:


In reading forums I often come across people who are criticized for not documenting the reasons for their opinions. Turning that on its head and criticizing someone for over-documenting their views while making zero comment on their content is a novel approach.

How is it possible to overdocument "Its all arafats fault" that is the sum total of ZN's contribution to this topic.


Is the racist card worn out?
racists? what racists? Are there racists on this board Mycroft? Certainly none that come to your attention eh.....
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Originally posted by a_unique_person
That's an argument? Time to send you of to learn some basic logic.

As you did not argue the point, I take it you accept it.
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I asked if you had been drinking because you didn't seem to have a sensible point to argue. However, if not arguing a point is the same as accepting it, I will be reminding you of that often in the future.
 
Mycroft said:


I asked if you had been drinking because you didn't seem to have a sensible point to argue. However, if not arguing a point is the same as accepting it, I will be reminding you of that often in the future.
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Virgil was asking just what is the status of the ethnic groups in the region. I was explaining to him just that.
 
Mycroft said:


Israel has a population that is about 20% non-Jewish. Most of these are Muslim Arab-Israelis. These are not the same people that are commonly called Palestinians, who are Arabs who live in the dispited territories of the West Bank and Gaza Strip.
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Why, do the Palestinians have a different number of heads, or something?
 
Originally posted by a_unique_person
Why, do the Palestinians have a different number of heads, or something?
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Again, have you been drinking?

Israeli-Arabs are not the same as Palestinian-Arabs in the same way that Canadians are not US citizens.
 
Mycroft said:
Again, have you been drinking?Israeli-Arabs are not the same as Palestinian-Arabs in the same way that Canadians are not US citizens.
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Why even bother Mycroft? You will never convince a_u_p that 20% of Israelis are Arabs, you will never convice a_u_p that there are several Arab members of the Israeli Knesset, you will never convince a_u_p that palestinian suicide bombers target and blow up arab-owned businesses in Israel as indiscriminantly as jewish-owned businesses, ( At least 19 people, including children, were killed by a female suicide bomber ), you will never convince a_u_p that Arabs in Israel suffer as badly from the palestinian terror groups as jewish Israelis do like 21-year-old-Arab George Khoury who was murdered while jogging in jerusalem, and who's grandfather was also killed in an bombing by palestinian terrorists.



a_u_p is a propogandist shill;

1) "Modern Israel is an environmental disaster in the making. It cannot get enough water to satisfy the insane fantasy it has of creating California in the Middle East, it pollutes all it's water bodies."

2) "Following the 1967 war Israel seized East Jerusalem, forced out all of the 6,500 residing Palestinians, and bulldozed their religious centers. "

3) "The Palestinians are not going to disappear. They will be a living testimony to Israels inhumanity."

4) "It is all a very confused issue. There are Arabs and Xians living in Israel proper. There are also Arabs and Xians living in the 'occupied' territories. What is there status as people? I don't know. As far as I can tell, they don't even have a nationality."

5) "Israel will now be personally responsible for the Palestinian people for as long as his 'eternity' lasts. He will be creating a '1984' style dictatorship, with spies and cameras monitoring people and subjagating them. Does Israel really want this legacy?"

Propoganda 101 plain and simple. You can count on a_u_p to climb out of the gutter and post these ridiculous and repeated debating points he's gleaned from years of researching jihad.com, nazi.com and killalljews.com. And to add insult to injury Cleopatra, "the jew in Greece" AKA "the JREF authority on judiasm and Israel", has nothing to say about this repeated propoganda. Her M.O. is to attack zenith-nadir. I have just given you four clear examples of a_u_p's propoganda and any jew worth their salt would take issue with these, yet Cleo's focus is always anti-zenith. I saw it a long time ago and said it then and I am saying it again, is anyone starting to see that Cleo may not be all she claims?
 
Mr Manifesto said:
Actually, loudmouth, I've emailed Tom Tomorrow asking if it's okay to use his image and, if not, does he want me to pay a fee for its use. I'm still waiting for a reply. But checking your facts before shooting your mouth off has never been your strong suit, has it?
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You're the baby who ran home to mommy and complained about my images, (which you will deny), and now you just admitted you have been using a copyrighted image and are emailing it's owner after I outed you. No wonder poeple lothe you here.
 
zenith-nadir said:
I saw it a long time ago and said it then and I am saying it again, is anyone starting to see that Cleo may not be all she claims?
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Do tell...I like a good conspiracy theory. Will I need my tinfoil hat?
 
zenith-nadir said:

Propoganda 101 plain and simple. You can count on a_u_p to climb out of the gutter and post these ridiculous and repeated debating points he's gleaned from years of researching jihad.com, nazi.com and killalljews.com. And to add insult to injury Cleopatra, "the jew in Greece" AKA "the JREF authority on judiasm and Israel", has nothing to say about this repeated propoganda. Her M.O. is to attack zenith-nadir. I have just given you four clear examples of a_u_p's propoganda and any jew worth their salt would take issue with these, yet Cleo's focus is always anti-zenith. I saw it a long time ago and said it then and I am saying it again, is anyone starting to see that Cleo may not be all she claims?
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Like I said, Cleopatra is not a Real Jew (TM). I suppose that Cleon isn't either. Or Chomsky or Gush Shalom . There are plenty of other Jews out there, and I have met a few over the years. Perhaps you should just forward us a list of who the Real Jews (TM) are, so we can know exactly who to believe.
 
a_unique_person said:
Like I said, Cleopatra is not a Real Jew (TM). I suppose that Cleon isn't either. Or Chomsky or Gush Shalom . There are plenty of other Jews out there, and I have met a few over the years. Perhaps you should just forward us a list of who the Real Jews (TM) are, so we can know exactly who to believe.
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Notice how a_u_p does not refute what I said about his repeated propoganda but only is interested in protecting Cleopatra... ;)
 
a_unique_person said:
What is there to refute.
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Exactly my point, one can only refute lies with more lies.

a_unique_person said:
You provide some quotes, then leave it at that.
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They aren't "some quotes" I provided, they are "your quotes" I quoted.

a_unique_person said:
Perhaps if you actually tell me what is wrong with them.
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I'll give you one example. 200,000 palestinians live in East Jerusalem. You clearly stated and provided a link that "verified" your claim that;
"Following the 1967 war Israel seized East Jerusalem, forced out all of the 6,500 residing Palestinians, and bulldozed their religious centers. "
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Mycroft said:


Israel has a population that is about 20% non-Jewish. Most of these are Muslim Arab-Israelis. These are not the same people that are commonly called Palestinians, who are Arabs who live in the dispited territories of the West Bank and Gaza Strip.
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thanks, but are these 20% citizens, can they hold gov't positions, vote, etc


thanks
Virgil
 
Virgil said:



thanks, but are these 20% citizens, can they hold gov't positions, vote, etc


thanks
Virgil
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Yes, yes, and yes, respectively. And not only can they do so, they in fact do vote and hold government positions.
 
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