Burning a Koran: Un-American?

[Darth Rotor]

I reserve the right to call the "pastor" a low-life and a bad American.

Of course you do. You and he are equals .... in your rights to self expression.

 

[Juniversal]

This all stems from the "no true scotsman" fallacy. To be American, you only need to be a citizen. Everything an American citizen does (good or bad) is American by definition.

Saying a book burner is "Un-American" is like saying "he isn't a TRUE American".

I think you're reading too much into it. Obviously the label Un-American simply refers to "American values" (or values this country was built on) and behaviors that conflict with those values. Though I'm sure that's stating the obvious. That being said I agree many use the label with reckless abandon and I scoff at faux Patriots who think they're more "American" then someone simply because they support our troops, wear flag pins or have American flag bumber stickers. They just come off looking like tools.

 

[Darth Rotor]

I think you're reading too much into it. Obviously the label Un-American simply refers to "American values" (or values this country was built on) and behaviors that conflict with those values. Though I'm sure that's stating the obvious. That being said I agree many use the label with reckless abandon and I scoff at faux Patriots who think they're more "American" then someone simply because they support our troops, wear flag pins or have American flag bumber stickers. They just come off looking like tools.

I think you missed Merv's point.

 

[leftysergeant]

Of course you do. You and he are equals .... in your rights to self expression.

I also have the right to state that he is a sorry excuse for a Christian.

The only violent act attributed to Jesus was picking up a whip and chasing his kind out of the Temple.

http://www.newser.com/story/100032/koran-torching-pastor-was-run-out-of-germany.html

 

[Darth Rotor]

I also have the right to state that he is a sorry excuse for a Christian.

The only violent act attributed to Jesus was picking up a whip and chasing his kind out of the Temple.

I don't think the money changers were "his kind" but I'll let that pass.

The dick in Florida is indeed demonstrating a piss poor example as a Christian.

 

[Juniversal]

I think you missed Merv's point.

No. I'm sure I understood his point perfectly. My response is inline with Darat's response in post #17.

 

[Thunder]

hmm...if I call it un-American to burn a Koran, than someone can say its un-American to burn the American flag.

 

[DC]

I don't know if it is an Un-American thing, but burning books once was a very Arian thing

 

[Thunder]

fascists burn books. extremists burn books.

nuff' said.

 

[DC]

I think it is wrong to burn books, we should recycle them.

 

[Spindrift]

Anti War protestors who burn flags.

Just because some Americans do something doesn't make it an American thing to do.

 

[leftysergeant]

I don't think the money changers were "his kind" but I'll let that pass.

It had to do with the commercialization of religion. That business about not being able to serve both God and Mamon.

 

[Juniversal]

hmm...if I call it un-American to burn a Koran, than someone can say its un-American to burn the American flag.

If Un-American = Childish, inflammatory and picture of intolerance then this is certaintly Anti-American. But if Un-American = in opposition to the values this country was built on than this behavior (or more precisely, the freedom to do so) is very "American". Regardless I believe it is very childish, inflammatory and a glaring show of intolerance.

 

[Dr. Fascism]

I'd gladly burn a Koran.

 

[thaiboxerken]

No more un-american than burning the flag.

or are those the "right kind" of protests?

The USA military burns flags all of the time, are they unamerican?

 

[plumjam]

This Pastor is so backwards; he doesn't have a Kindle yet?
It should really be a Download and Delete the Koran Day.. so much more civilised.

 

[Juniversal]

I'd gladly burn a Koran.

How about we compromise and burn all Religous literature?

 

[Howie Felterbush]

Apparently, lots of people get big chucks out of defacing what some (not me, mind. See post #13 in the thread below) believe is a holy book.

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=179960&highlight=gideon

Why should the Koran be exempt?

 

[leftysergeant]

Why should the Koran be exempt?

Protect all of them from mob violence.

We would know a lot more about early Mesoamerican culture had the Conquistadors not been such bigotted gits.

 

[Howie Felterbush]

We can still burn one at home though, right?