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The Atheist said:
Mine would be skeletons only by now, so I'll pass on seeing them again.

One thing, Kathy, what are you curious about?

You don't seem to be curious about anything - your mind's made up. Why "Kurious"?
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Backstory:

Her and Christiandude (her husband) hopped over here from some catholic forum with the intention of ministering to us poor atheists. Kathy has since then never stopped with condescention and insulting premises for God like my cancer being a tool of God to bring me closer to Jesus and slingblade's suffered domestic abuse being somehow caused by slingblade herself.

After being thoroughly taken to task ChristianDude seems to have run off, though I suspect Kathy's occasional improvements in grammar and spelling is her husband using her account.

Do a search for a thread called "The Gospel" and "Kurious_Kathy's Faithlessness" for the beginnings of her lovely tenure of crapping her prosletyzing fecal posts all over this forum.

I have no idea what she thinks she's "kurious" about, but given her bigoted attitude I am surprised she didn't use a third word in the moniker with another K.
 
kurious_kathy said:
I'm sorry you lost your dad. I haven't lost either of my parents yet. I just can't help hoping that we will all see our loved ones again. Don't you at least want to have that hope? I sure do.
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On its face, sure, I'd love to see my lost loved ones again.
But what I want and reality are two different things. There's simply no evidence of an afterlife, whatsoever. I'm not going to pretend to believe in made up fairy stories just to make me feel better.
 
fowlsound said:
After being thoroughly taken to task ChristianDude seems to have run off, though I suspect Kathy's occasional improvements in grammar and spelling is her husband using her account.
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There was a post, IIRC in this thread, where KK reported that she and hubby were no longer together. Reliability unknown, and perhaps my memory is playing tricks on me yet again.

DR
 
fowlsound said:
I have no idea what she thinks she's "kurious" about, but given her bigoted attitude I am surprised she didn't use a third word in the moniker with another K.
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I think her kurious comes from her inability to put on other's shoes. Like I have said before, many of us here of gone thru the god thing, and have moved on and beyond the need for it. It in the end solves nothing, it only gives people something else to fight over. And as someone said "god helps those who help themselves", which means if you didn't do it, it will not get done, so there is no need for a god.

Paul

:) :) :)
 
Huntster said:
Have you ever tried that dark Australian beer, "Sheaf Stout"?

It's great, but very heavy.
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You need to get into some of our South Island-brewed boutique breweries while you're down there. They have it right - got to make good beer where it's naturally cold, I think.

Been meaning to say to you, too, I made a comment about catholic hypocrites a couple of threads ago. I don't have you in that list. You're in the: "Crazy Catholic B###ards" list, no hypocrisy required!
 
kurious_kathy said:
How do people without faith deal with death?
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I can't speak for others, but for myself, I simply honor them in my thoughts. Every now and again I catch myself saying something or doing something that Mom or Dad did and I get a warm, sometimes sad feeling, knowing that the things they said and taught are still alive in me and the other people they touched.

But I never spend any time hoping we can be together again. That, IMO is a waste of time. Knowing that I only have one life to live makes me more determined not to spend it in maudlin memory or wishful thinking. As Mom would say, "I'll miss them, but life goes on."

It does. Thanks, Mom.
 
Paulhoff said:
Please just keep on name calling, If you can't see it is the same, that again is your problem.

Paul

:) :) :)
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The problem is your inability to see the difference, hence the question on your malfunction. Without your BS premise, no response.

DR
 
fowlsound said:
I have no idea what she thinks she's "kurious" about, but given her bigoted attitude I am surprised she didn't use a third word in the moniker with another K.
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You have at least one example right above. She wonders how atheists deal with death.

And I thing you guys should lighten up on Kathy. Though I don't agree with her on practically anything, the fact that she has watched people trash her reputation here without responding in kind says a lot for her. If she is a bigot, it is only the soft bigotry of repeating things you have been told, not the deep-seated, hateful schadenfreude of those who truly wish ill on others.

Yeah, she's frustrating to deal with, but she is a creature of her environment, not willfully evil.
 
If you refuse and or fear to question your faith, when what do you fear from so-called loving god.

In the good old days of worshiping gods, if the one you worshiped didn’t come thru for you, you dumped it and found one that seemed to. Now all they do is make excuses for their god not getting the job done. The old “I know he must love me because he tests me so much”. No god could ever lose with that reasoning, and they support it time and time again.

Paul

:) :) :)
 
fowlsound said:
I have no idea what she thinks she's "kurious" about, but given her bigoted attitude I am surprised she didn't use a third word in the moniker with another K.
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I'm curious why it is so hard for an intellectual person to find faith? Perhaps that's what keeps me here?

And food for thought....What You Resist, Persist."
Everyone who's done any work on themselves has probably heard that term, but do you get it? Sometimes the very thing a person is resisting is the one thing they need to learn.
 
kurious_kathy said:
I'm curious why it is so hard for an intellectual person to find faith? Perhaps that's what keeps me here?

And food for thought....What You Resist, Persist."
Everyone who's done any work on themselves has probably heard that term, but do you get it? Sometimes the very thing a person is resisting is the one thing they need to learn.
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I'm sorry. This quote made me giggle.

So, if it is hard for an intellectual person to find faith, and you (kk) have faith, you aren't intellectual? Do you often call yourself stupid in public?
 
kurious_kathy said:
I'm curious why it is so hard for an intellectual person to find faith? Perhaps that's what keeps me here?

And food for thought....What You Resist, Persist."
Everyone who's done any work on themselves has probably heard that term, but do you get it? Sometimes the very thing a person is resisting is the one thing they need to learn.
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I'm sorry. This quote made me giggle.

So, if it is hard for an intellectual person to find faith, and you (kk) have faith, you aren't intellectual? Do you often call yourself stupid in public?

And what do you think "What You Resist, Persist" means? Did you mean "What You Resist, Persists"? If so, I can think of lots of situations where it is not the case.
 
Christians used to believe that thunder storms and lightning bolts were directed by God to "discipline his servants and teach us important lessons," or they were directed by Satan ("the Prince of the Power of the Air") and his demons, or they were called forth by "witches" to "try and destroy God's holy sanctuaries and ministers." Such "sacred" explanations were vouched for by leading Christian authorities. For instance, the Catholic theologian, Thomas Aquinas wrote, "It is a dogma of faith that demons can produce winds, storms, and rains of fire (lightning) from heaven." While, Pope Gregory XIII advocated "exorcising the demons" who "do stir up the clouds." The Protestant theologian, Martin Luther supported the superstition even more zealously, asserting at times his belief that the winds themselves are only good or evil spirits, and declaring that a stone thrown into a certain pond in his native region would cause a dreadful storm because of the devils kept prisoners there.
Numerous pious authors also testified how well the old "sacred" remedies succeeded in protecting churches and cathedrals from the ravages of lightning strikes and storms. Such "sacred" remedies included ringing church-bells and reciting special prayers. Hence, when Benjamin Franklin invented his "lightning rod" in 1752, most Christians were far from eager to place a "rod of iron" designed by an "arch-heretic" at the top of their churches near the holy cross of Christ. Neither did they desire to abandon the ancient Christian game of praising God (or blaming the devil), for lightning strikes and storms.
In America the earthquake of 1755 was widely ascribed, especially in Massachusetts, to Franklin's rod. The Rev. Thomas Prince, pastor of the Old South Church, published a sermon on the subject, and in the appendix expressed the opinion that the frequency of earthquakes may be due to the erection of "iron points invented by the sagacious Mr. Franklin." He goes on to argue that "in Boston are more erected than anywhere else in New England, and Boston seems to be more dreadfully shaken. Oh! There is no getting out of the mighty hand of God."
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Time and time again, christains (and other religious groups) have been proven wrong about the universe. Why should anyone that can think buy into something that is so flawed and only has one book to support it and that one contradicts itself?

Paul

:) :) :)
 
kurious_kathy said:
I'm curious why it is so hard for an intellectual person to find faith? Perhaps that's what keeps me here?

And food for thought....What You Resist, Persist."
Everyone who's done any work on themselves has probably heard that term, but do you get it? Sometimes the very thing a person is resisting is the one thing they need to learn.
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Is there anything else other than divinity that you accept without evidence?
 
kurious_kathy said:
I'm curious why it is so hard for an intellectual person to find faith? Perhaps that's what keeps me here?
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First of all, lots and lots of intellectuals have faith. I work with a group of scientists and engineers and I'd say that way more than half of them are self-professed Christians. Some are other religions. They keep their faith in one box and their knowledge in another.

Secondly, not every atheist is an intellectual. Honestly, I'd be hard pressed to tell you exactly what an "intellectual" is, but I know that it doesn't mean the same thing as "educated".

Caveats aside, it is true that the more a person learns about how the world works, the less likely they are to rely on faith for explanations. When you know what makes a rainbow, the old explanation of "it is a promise from God" doesn't have as much power to move you. Yet you can still be deeply moved by the beauty of a rainbow. (I have tons of rainbow pictures in my photo album. I love 'em.)

Huntster, a devout Catholic who posts here, has said that knowledge replaces faith. In this, I agree with him (though we don't agree on much else. ;) ) For me, my conversion from Christianity to atheism involved the realization that knowledge does a much better job of revealing truth than faith. So many things that I had "faith" in turned out to be wrong or meaningless. I began to believe that evidence was a better tool for enlightenment than old books of history and myth.

I still have faith in some things. I cannot possibly ask for evidence for every single thing that I accept as true, but for the big things, the important things, I find that faith tells you nothing except what you want to hear or what others want you to believe.

kurious_kathy said:
And food for thought....What You Resist, Persist."
Everyone who's done any work on themselves has probably heard that term, but do you get it?
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No. I have no idea what you mean. I assume you meant "persists". But I find that statement to be false. I resisted the urge to try tobacco, even though the rest of my family smokes. The urge to try it has not persisted. I can give you lots of other examples. What I find more often is that what you accept persists. Don't you?

kurious_kathy said:
Sometimes the very thing a person is resisting is the one thing they need to learn.
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And sometimes it is not. Are you resisting atheism? Do you feel a need to learn it? No, Kathy, that statement is silly.

Besides, I know Christianity. I already learned it. I just don't believe it anymore.
 
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