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Bullish on Bernie: The Bernie Sanders 2016 Thread

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Childlike Empress said:
Actually, I've heard about the 2009 military coup in Honduras when it happened, but I didn't have it on the radar until this item, and those who never heard a single word about it are likely in the vast majority of "news followers".
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Well, I posted it about a week ago in the Hillary thread. So...
 
logger said:
Its called collateral damage. I never said they were targeted, I said they're already being killed.
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Trump said we should kill their families. This is a fact. Think about this deeply, actually do some research, then talk to me in the morning.
 
Anyone who calls anyone a "boob" I demand to know what year they were born in. Honestly, respect, we need to bring that word back. Your opinions are stupid but I love the word choices.
 
Skeptic Ginger said:
Better still,what if he chose some key states and some good candidates to back and got a bunch of E Warrens elected to the Senate and a few in the House?

And what if he took up the cause of eliminating gerrymandering?

Think of the progress we could all make in that case.
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People interested in progress vote that way, those who don't, obviously aren't.
 
BenBurch said:
:p

Sanders pretty much is a Bull Moose.
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Well, there are some distinctions, but he is definitely closer, ideologically, than anyone we have had run for high office in a major U. S. party in modern history. That is one of my primary reasons for gravitating towards his campaign as soon as you brought it to my attention back almost a year ago.

Many writers have noted these similarities as well:

"Bernie Sanders Channels This Great Republican President - The Vermont Senator is not a socialist but a Bull Moose, the reformist party started by Theodore Roosevelt" - http://observer.com/2016/01/bernie-sanders-channels-this-great-republican-president/

...That party’s nickname can in part trace its routes to a speech given in the very Milwaukee auditorium where Republican presidential candidates debated in November. Outside the theater on October 14, 1912, an anarchist shot the former president who went ahead and delivered his remarks with a bullet lodged in his chest. The wounded Roosevelt, who tried to recapture the office he left in 1909, informed the audience, “I have just been shot—but it takes more than that to kill a Bull Moose.” He noted that his life was likely spared when the bullet was slowed down as it passed through the lengthy (and thick) speech in his coat pocket.

Perhaps the reason the Republican candidate who shared that stage did not invoke TR was the message he delivered from that stage: “The laboring man must organize for his own protection, but that it is the duty of the rest of us to help him.”

That same year, the Bull Moose Party platform, written by Roosevelt, laid out one of the most progressive platforms in American history calling for “the protection of the home life against the hazards of sickness, irregular employment and old age through a system of social insurance adopted to American use.”
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"Bernie Sanders Jumps In: The Last Bull Moose Campaign" - http://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/news/a34711/there-is-now-a-sanders-campaign/
...What is Bernie Sanders asking of the country as he begins his presidential campaign? A fairer economic system pried loose from the people who nearly wrecked it all four years ago. Legitimately progressive taxation. That the country acknowledge, with its money, that we all need bridges and roads and water systems. Honest elections. Recognition that environmental crises are national crises. Theodore Roosevelt could have run on those issues, and once did.

A long time ago, I met a guy named Frank P. Zeidler. He was a Socialist and once he was the mayor of Milwaukee, the last Socialist to be elected mayor of a major American city. (Milwaukee elected three of them, as Alice Cooper once informed Wayne Campbell.) Zeidler won his first election, as Milwaukee County Surveyor, on the Progressive Party line, as a Bull Moose liberal. Once, I heard him say that, when he was coming up, what made you a Socialist was the fact that you believed your city should fix potholes and that it should have a fire department. As Bernie Sanders begins his run for president in an era in which people scream "Socialist!" as a kind of conjuring word to make moderate reforms vanish, it's probably important to remember that being a Socialist once meant that you shouldn't have to put out your own fires. That's Bernie Sanders's campaign -- he's the last Bull Moose in the forest.
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"lot like Teddy Roosevelt's and Reagan's" - http://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-bl...rss-socialist-policies-sound-a-lot-like-teddy

Several others available for those interested.
 
Trakar said:
You have chosen to vote in a conservative manner, which belies a self purported interest in progress.
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WTF?

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SG said:
Better still,what if he chose some key states and some good candidates to back and got a bunch of E Warrens elected to the Senate and a few in the House?

And what if he took up the cause of eliminating gerrymandering?

Think of the progress we could all make in that case.
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Nope, nothing there about conservative voting or "People interested in progress vote that way, those who don't, obviously aren't."

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Skeptic Ginger said:
WTF?

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Nope, nothing there about conservative voting or "People interested in progress vote that way, those who don't, obviously aren't."

:confused::confused::confused:
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Better still,what if he chose some key states and some good candidates to back and got a bunch of E Warrens elected to the Senate and a few in the House?

And what if he took up the cause of eliminating gerrymandering?

Think of the progress we could all make in that case.
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You don't achieve progress by acting conservatively and supporting conservative paths.
 
Most Trump supporters think that the US was just fine before, but 8 years of Obama has made us divided. I've asked quite a few Trump supporters just how exactly will Trump be able to "un-divide" the country (because I believe having him as a president will be like throwing gasoline on a raging fire).

Their response is almost universal: apparently he will create so many jobs and the economy will be so strong and America will have an unbeatable military so we'll be secure.

Because of that, everybody will be happy and come together, and America will be great again.

I kid you not
 
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Trakar said:
You don't achieve progress by acting conservatively and supporting conservative paths.
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SG said:
Better still,what if he chose some key states and some good candidates to back and got a bunch of E Warrens elected to the Senate and a few in the House?

And what if he took up the cause of eliminating gerrymandering?

Think of the progress we could all make in that case.
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Pray tell what you see that is conservative voting in that quote.
 
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