Brilliant Light Power Going To Market - Free Energy Generator

[MikeG]

No.

Unfortunately it's not.

As you know nothing of my world views, your dismissal of them is simply a matter of belief, demonstrating (as if such were needed) that you don't require evidence before you formulate an opinion.

 

[LTC8K6]

Columbia Tech is a contract manufacturer. That doesn't mean that what they've contracted to manufacture actually works. They just manufacture whatever they are hired to manufacture, according to the plans and specs provided.

 

[Giordano]

They will hit the market in a year, but it will take a few years to ramp up production.

They will take over the energy market much like cell phones took over the phone market. It will happen quickly, but not overnight.

But as you know the effect on the stock market of this "new discovery" will greatly precede its actual establishment in the energy market. Even a believable rumor, let alone the strong evidence that you claim to cite, should make the other energy stocks plummet virtually immediately. Investors in the stock market seek to get in (and out) early before the nitty-gritty of the actual products make it all a done deal and "past history." The discovery of a large metal ore deposit by one company drops the stocks of competing companies long before the ore is actually mined and sold. My own improbability scheme, once made public and people see how believable it is, should tear the heart out of almost all other established energy companies with days!

As I indicated, I don't take your posts seriously. But if you do believe in this scheme I wish you luck! If it is as you claim true this time (as opposed to all the other times over the past decades this brilliant invention was just a matter of months from successful commercialization) you should start planning for your string of vacation homes and exotic sports car purchases.

 

[Giordano]

Yeah, I stated in the OP that there would be plenty of naysayers who haven't done their homework claiming what you just claimed.

Mills did have a product ready to go commercial back in 2009. This product was called the CHIT cell. This was a much bulkier, far less powerful, far more expensive type of generator.

Mills decided against taking this to market after discovering new novel properties of the hydrino that allowed for far greater amounts of energy to be produced around the time the CHIT cell was being planned for production.

Rather than spend the money on a commercial launch of the CIHT cell, Mills decided to spend his investment capital on further research. This eventually lead to the creation of the SunCell type generator described in the OP.

For comparison, the CHIT cell prototype generator was producing 10 watts of continuous power. The SunCell prototype reactor is dumping out 1 million watts continuous power, with a planned 100 kw generator output.

Investment capital is limited. Obviously Mills made the right choice when he decided to focus on SunCell development rather than taking the CHIT cell to market.

I bet he will not stop here! He will soon discover an even more improved approach with still greater output, smaller, cheaper, etc. Don't be too shocked if the commercialization date therefore slips even further. Don't stop with just good enough- wait for perfect! That is the way one real product development and commercialization works- right? The best things, including investments, come to those who wait...

 

[Giordano]

Ok.

Don't believe me.

We'll find out who is right, just like we found out who was right about Bitcoin.

No need to wait- we already found out who is right in regard to the Brilliant Light Power scheme. See the posts in this thread.

 

[Giordano]

OK, let's try to be fair here. Mills is an MD. Naturally, he's used to getting paid huge piles of money for delivering absolutely no results whatsoever.

The important thing is his bedside manner. Does he make me feel all warm and fuzzy? Sure he does. I want to believe in low/no cost energy for all. I want to solve the world's problems too.

As a doctor, he knows we are all mortal. Extend the deadline and watch early adopters die off from old age. All of us mortal, most of us stupid. It's only natural that a highly trained, very intelligent person should freely prey on us schmucks. I for one will gladly expose my throat to the sweet-talking wolf. If not Dr. Mills, then some other.

I did find the reference to him being an MD intriguing. Next time I have medical problem I am going to consult a nuclear physicist.

 

[LTC8K6]

Let's try to stay on topic.

What's different this time with BlackLight Power?

I can find lots of promises of startups and contracts to provide energy over the years.

None have actually happened.

 

[LTC8K6]

I'll take the word of 2,762 independent architects and engineers over one guy on the internet and a handful of incompetent bureaucrats.

What scam am I running again? You make it sound like I'm trying to deceive people for my own personal monetary gain.

Well, to me you are supporting a scam. One good reason to support a scam would be that you have a monetary interest. Money is very often the foundation of a scam like BlackLight Power is running.

It's certainly a successful scam, as it's clearly brought in a lot of money over the decades from people who failed to do their homework before opening their wallets, without ever having to show any usable prototype.

 

[LTC8K6]

http://pesn.com/2008/05/29/9500481_Blacklight_commercially_ready/

Going commercial in 2008. Quite similar to your thread title.

 

[Horatius]

Interesting. In 2009:

Mills did have a product ready to go commercial back in 2009. This product was called the CHIT cell. This was a much bulkier, far less powerful, far more expensive type of generator.
...
For comparison, the CHIT cell prototype generator was producing 10 watts of continuous power. The SunCell prototype reactor is dumping out 1 million watts continuous power, with a planned 100 kw generator output.

But then:

http://pesn.com/2008/05/29/9500481_Blacklight_commercially_ready/

Going commercial in 2008. Quite similar to your thread title.

BlackLight Power Inc. announced Wednesday the successful testing of a new energy source. The company has successfully developed a prototype power system generating 50,000 watts of thermal power on demand.

The company is presently in discussion with various engineering and manufacturing firms to to prepare this 50 kW unit for commercial production.

Somehow they went from 50kW in 2008, to only 10 W in 2009, and are now back up to 100kW? Wow, that's some unusual product development there.

 

[Giordano]

[snipped the off topic comments].

What scam am I running again? You make it sound like I'm trying to deceive people for my own personal monetary gain.

I don't really know if you are or are not trying to deceive others, trying to yourself, that it represent some sort of fun for you, something else, and/or your motivation.

All I do know is that this thread will come up in a Google search of the company. And I can only hope that whoever views this thread in this way will not be deceived and will thank the efforts of the other members of this forum in presenting the truth.

 

[michaelsuede]

Interesting. In 2009:



But then:







Somehow they went from 50kW in 2008, to only 10 W in 2009, and are now back up to 100kW? Wow, that's some unusual product development there.

There's a big difference between a scaled production reactor and a prototype. The 50kw version would have been massive. The SunCell will double that and still be smaller than a car engine.

 

[phunk]

The light bulb is surrounded by an array of special solar cells called concentrator solar cells that are able to harness the energy from this enormously bright light source. These special solar cells already exist and are in use in solar farms around the world today.

This makes no sense. Concentrator solar cells use lenses to concentrate the light falling over a wide area into smaller solar cells. You would not use them for a small already incredibly bright light source. If anything, they would need the opposite to spread the light over more area to prevent burning up the solar cells.

A boiler and turbine would make more sense given their claims.

 

[LTC8K6]

Working 1Kw unit in 1991/92...

http://www.padrak.com/ine/NEN_6_8_1.html

 

[Giordano]

[snipped because off topic]

What scam am I running again? You make it sound like I'm trying to deceive people for my own personal monetary gain.

My apologies but these words can be a means to avoid a straightforward statement. More directly: you are stating that the success of this company will not generate any personal monetary gain for you? Of course this is the internet rather than a legal deposition under oath, but I do want to understand what you are actually claiming here very clearly.

Also, as pointed out upthread, scams are scams and a surprisingly large number of people burned by these scams are strong supporters before (and even after) they learn the truth.

 

[michaelsuede]

With regards to that last question, I would say "no".

"So what exactly constitutes "hitting the market" according to you?"

I'd say, a commercial product freely available to at least one segment of the open market not associated with BLP (other than as customers, obviously), that are installed and independently operating to the satisfaction of the customer. "Installed and independently operating to the satisfaction of the customer" would have to be determined by unambiguous statements from such customers for some significant period following the installation.

A "prototype" installation could still be a fraud, if people associated with BLP still have routine access to it.

The "unambiguous statements" and "some significant period following the installation" would be required, because there have been previous cases where BLP has claimed to have signed contracts for their devices, to much rejoicing in the initial press releases, only to have such sales disappear down the memory hole, as the customer doesn't want to advertise that they were scammed.

I'll grant you the extra 6 months. So, July 9, 2018?

Sounds good.

You can get my email from my site to remind me when the time comes and negotiate payment one way or the other. I'll throw a Benjamin at that bet. I"ll plug it in my calendar.

 

[LTC8K6]

Wiki says the world record for solar cell efficiency is under 50%.

Why is BlackLight Power wasting so much of the energy it's magic device creates?

 

[jaydeehess]

Sounds good.

You can get my email from my site to remind me when the time comes and negotiate payment one way or the other. I'll throw a Benjamin at that bet. I"ll plug it in my calendar.

You do see that given the history of unfulfilled promises, by many people, of a free energy device over the past several decades, that the most common reaction now will be disbelief.
The null hypothesis in this would be that this is more of the same.

I'll plant my feet in Missouri for this one too.

 

[Giordano]

The overall pattern of the "free energy" scheme is virtually identical IMO to that I've seen utilized by a flying car company near where I live. Repeated announcements of breakthroughs and working prototypes (including videos) with the commercialization of an actual product promised to occur just short of a year away (a very popular time period to promise). This is then followed by the company ignoring the prior failure (or by a brief hand waving explanation), then followed in turn by announcements of even better breakthroughs and even better working prototypes (again with video). All sprinkled by announcements of famous companies just about to buy in and other huge investments just about to be finalized. Yet somehow, over multiple decades, none of this ever became reality. Is there some common play book by which these schemes operate?

 

[jaydeehess]

Wiki says the world record for solar cell efficiency is under 50%.

Why is BlackLight Power wasting so much of the energy it's magic device creates?

My first thought was 'why not just use it as heat source for a steam turbine'.