And he's gone and linked arms with Farrage and his ilk.
Boris Johnson 'confirms he will campaign for Brexit in EU referendum'
Brexit: the referendum
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Boris Johnson 'confirms he will campaign for Brexit in EU referendum'
I realise it's an ad hominem, but with Farage, Gove, IDS, Johnson and Galloway in favour of exit, it's hard not to simply assume it's the wrong decision.
The suggestion I heard yesterday was that if he goes for exit (as it appears he has), that's basically staking his future as the future leader of the Tories on winning the referendum. The reason he may have gone for that is that if the vote is for exit, then he's got that sewn up, whereas if he had supported staying in the EU, that wouldn't advance his personal ambitions, since Cameron would remain in place. In other words (and this is probably what you're saying) his decision is based purely on what it means for him, not what is best for the country.
Rincewind
Philosopher
The "dream" team, huh?
Who cares? They've made their choice.
All those who left the UK less than 15 years ago are eligible to vote. If it is indeed 2.2 million then their vote could be very significant. All the British Embassies in the EU are already running campaigns to get expats to vote now.
ohms
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Bloody British immigrants, flooding the UK !
If it comes down to it, "mutual agreements" will be put in place. By population London is France's 6th largest city, as it were, and many EU countries would be pretty inconvenienced if the current regulations were dropped on the spot vis-a-vis Brits and living in Britain.
MrsB nearly had kittens yesterday when she read a scare piece (turned out to be just a blog) suggesting that expat Brits living in the EU would lose their reciprocal health care rights with a Brexit.
But Cameron is a right arse for raising even the possibility of such chaos in the first place. Trump is rated at about 20% to become next POTUS and that is a truly ridiculous prospect yet far from impossible. Brexit is somewhat more likely, if the bookies are right.
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aleCcowaN
imperfecto del subjuntivo
The UK should leave the EC.
Have you in mind the EU? Do you have a special and succinct reason?
Is there such a thing as a "wet nightmare"?
ComfySlippers
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Bloody British immigrants, flooding the UK !
If it comes down to it, "mutual agreements" will be put in place. By population London is France's 6th largest city, as it were, and many EU countries would be pretty inconvenienced if the current regulations were dropped on the spot vis-a-vis Brits and living in Britain.
MrsB nearly had kittens yesterday when she read a scare piece (turned out to be just a blog) suggesting that expat Brits living in the EU would lose their reciprocal health care rights with a Brexit.
But Cameron is a right arse for raising even the possibility of such chaos in the first place. Trump is rated at about 20% to become next POTUS and that is a truly ridiculous prospect yet far from impossible. Brexit is somewhat more likely, if the bookies are right.
They don't even need new mutual agreements as the Vienna Convention on the Law of Treaties 1969 would come into play. It contains articles that are based on ‘acquired rights’, which individuals build up over time and hold despite any changes in future treaties enacted by their nation.
CapelDodger
Penultimate Amazing
Craig B:
You Irish can go your own way.
You Irish can go your own way.
aleCcowaN
imperfecto del subjuntivo
Yes, it's still a "community" to me.
The UK hasn't the same commitment to the Union than other rich countries in it. I agree with most objections raised by the UK, but that is not the point. Integration is commitment and you can't blackmail your family.
On a general level I'm against the speed of integration of the whole EU. The experiment of the Euro never should have exceeded the first 6 founding countries. But I understand what commitment is.
Thank you for that information
I'll read up about it later, but it's good to hear that there is such a thing. Also, it makes sense.Boris has joined the Brexit camp. Told Cameron by text several minutes before making it public.
The Guardian
Looks to me like his leadership bid. Whatever the referendum result I don't see Cameron at #10 at the end of 2016.
The Guardian
Looks to me like his leadership bid. Whatever the referendum result I don't see Cameron at #10 at the end of 2016.
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Major Major
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You know that if by some chance (will the EU send workers to count the votes?) the plebiscite gets a majority for leaving the EU, Brussels will find some error in the voting and require another vote and so on until the people speak their true opinion for staying in the EU.
It's a democracy, after all, and the people's voice should be heard.
It's a democracy, after all, and the people's voice should be heard.
Have you not been following the well articulated arguments from the "out" side? The "out" campaign have made it very clear that everything will be the same but better when we leave Europe because.
You'll find that will answer all your questions about why we should leave and what the ramifications will be.
It's a good joke but remember in the UK parliament is sovereign.