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Cont: Brexit: Now What? The Perfect 10.

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Mr Fied said:
But if we all went back to using coal there would be no need to re-open schools, the kids could all be employed up chimneys.

Think of the extra income tax it would generate.
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I'm sure a certain Leader if the House would find the idea 'uplifting'.
 
Mr Fied said:
But if we all went back to using coal there would be no need to re-open schools, the kids could all be employed up chimneys.

Think of the extra income tax it would generate.
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No, send them back down the mines.
 
Captain_Swoop said:
Conservative Home "The Voice of Conservatism" has published a piece by darren grimes on energy production 'post brexit'

He says

Shall I slap him or does someone else want that pleasure?


https://www.conservativehome.com/th...nd-wealth-by-mining-it-in-the-north-east.html
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To be fair, he's not really arguing for going back to coal for electricity generation, but for:
There’s a massive domestic demand for coal in such industries as steel, cement, the UK’s heritage railways and even for the heating of rural homes. Going forward, once all coal-fired generation ceases, it’s estimated that the UK will still need around five million tonnes for these industries every year.
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I thought you were in favour of getting coal for heritage railways?
Although we should be moving away from coal for steel, and we should cut back on cement/concrete use anyway.

And we should really cut back on home use as well.

I should also add that a new coal mine was approved end of last year in Cumbria for coking coal.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cumbria-50274212

I'm not defending him, as we should be looking at alternatives, but there will be demand for coal in the UK, even at though its less than what it was.
 
We still have coal, it's not mined though, it comes from open cast.

Heritage Railways need hard, low clinker, low sulfur coal.
Soft coal breaks up and small fragments and dust gets lifted by the draught depositing in the fire tubes and smokebox, this reduces gas flow and heat transfer and reduces steaming.
Clinker clogs the firebars reducing air flow and sulfur causes erosion of fire tubes and boiler tube plates.
Welsh coal was the best, current UK coal isn't suitable. It comes from Poland now.
 
KDLarsen said:
To be fair, May didn't exactly help herself by unilaterally adding all those red lines, that made it near impossible to reach any kind of agreement with the EU, other than a hard brexit.
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Those red lines reflected what Brexit supporters wanted and expected. Remember, I’m not saying that she could have done something better than what the UK is getting now. I’m saying that trying to implement the policies Brexit supporters and the political right want was never going to work, any honest attempt to make them work was always doomed to fail.
 
Captain_Swoop said:
Minette Batters of the National Farmers Union says For Boris Johnson "to sign up to a trade deal which results in opening our ports, shelves & fridges to food which would be illegal to produce here would not only be morally bankrupt, it would be the work of the insane."
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UK farmers generally bought into the notion the UK would be able to sell the EU products that couldn’t be produced legally in the EU. I don’t know why it would surprise them find out that the people who thought this could happen are fine with importing US made products that couldn’t be made legally in the UK.
 
ponderingturtle said:
Yes it was, they just didn't know it.
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Exactly. The nation voted by a massive 52 to 48 to get off the EU plane as it didn't like the imagined destination. And that's as good as saying we wanted to jump without a parachute. But don't worry because we'll knit a wonderful parachute before we jump. Oh. I mean after we jump, while we plummet. And a vote for Boris is a vote for absolutely not moving the ground further away to give us more time. Look at the people down there on the ground: they're fine, so what's the problem? And if we finish our knitting, which will be easy, remember not to touch the ripcord, because the EU will cave in any second now. Any second now. Any second.
 
Jack by the hedge said:
Exactly. The nation voted by a massive 52 to 48 to get off the EU plane as it didn't like the imagined destination. And that's as good as saying we wanted to jump without a parachute. But don't worry because we'll knit a wonderful parachute before we jump. Oh. I mean after we jump, while we plummet. And a vote for Boris is a vote for absolutely not moving the ground further away to give us more time. Look at the people down there on the ground: they're fine, so what's the problem? And if we finish our knitting, which will be easy, remember not to touch the ripcord, because the EU will cave in any second now. Any second now. Any second.
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And at least they finished a nice warm woolly jumper or as they call it now, and Australian parachute.
 
Squeegee Beckenheim said:
That's not true. The red lines were to appease hard-line Brexiteers, but that's not what the majority of people actually voted for.
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“Leave” voters voted to have their cake and eat it too. They wanted the red lines (and other things) but didn’t want the consequences. Exactly what they were voting for still isn’t clear because it included things that were mutually exclusive from the start. I think there is no real world deal that would have won that referendum.
 
lomiller said:
“Leave” voters voted to have their cake and eat it too. They wanted the red lines (and other things) but didn’t want the consequences. Exactly what they were voting for still isn’t clear because it included things that were mutually exclusive from the start. I think there is no real world deal that would have won that referendum.
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Exactly.
 
How is the hiring and training of new border inspectors going with COVID? And is there going to be a hard Irish border on the 1st?
 
Wudang said:
<mode=Raab>No there will be no hard border. The hard border will be fully manned and ready on the 1st. I think we've made that clear.</Raab>
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If you want your impression to be convincing you have to step in a waste paper basket then fall out of a window leaving your trousers snagged on the frame. Otherwise it smacks too much of competence.
 
Brexit is on course to cost the UK more than its combined total of payments to the European Union budget over the past 47 years.

Brexit is set to have cost the UK more than £200 billion in lost economic growth by the end of this year — a figure that almost eclipses the total amount the UK has paid toward the European Union budget over the past 47 years.

According to research by Bloomberg Economics, the cost of the UK's vote to leave has already reached £130 billion, with a further £70 billion likely to be added by the end of 2020.

The analysis, by the economist Dan Hanson, found that business uncertainty had caused the UK's economic growth to lag behind that of other G7 countries since the 2016 vote.

That means the British economy is 3% smaller than it might have been if the UK had not voted to leave the EU.
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https://www.businessinsider.com/brexit-will-cost-uk-more-than-total-payments-to-eu-2020-1
 
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