Cont: Brexit: Now What? The Perfect 10.

[Andy_Ross]

Is there anything sadder than seeing a butthurt leave campaign organisation crying about how Brexit is going to be rubbish now because of remainers making Boris Johnson prime minister?

 

[GlennB]

Is there anything sadder than seeing a butthurt leave campaign organisation crying about how Brexit is going to be rubbish now because of remainers making Boris Johnson prime minister?

I'm struggling to see their point. Enough remainers voted Tory to get Johnson in with a fat majority, enabling him to royally **** things up?

 

[P.J. Denyer]

I'm struggling to see their point. Enough remainers voted Tory to get Johnson in with a fat majority, enabling him to royally **** things up?

I think the point is "We can see how bad it's going to be and we're desperate to blame anyone else". It's the British equivalent of Trump claiming Russia is helping the democrats.

 

[Andy_Ross]

they seem upset even though they got what they wanted.

 

[Lukraak_Sisser]

To be fair, most did not get what they wanted.
It's not their fault that the evil remainers did not get them the cake they were promised they could have and eat as well.

 

[Andy_Ross]

Dominic Raab
@DominicRaab
Today I will introduce a sanctions regime that will target people who have committed the gravest human rights violations. Global Britain will be an even stronger force for good in the world, in the years ahead.

 

[Ulf Nereng]

I'm struggling to see their point. Enough remainers voted Tory to get Johnson in with a fat majority, enabling him to royally **** things up?

Maybe it's that remainer Tories elected Boris to be leader of the party, knowing full well that he's an idiot who would screw everything up? That does sound kinda plausible to me!

 

[Ulf Nereng]

Dominic Raab
@DominicRaab
Today I will introduce a sanctions regime that will target people who have committed the gravest human rights violations. Global Britain will be an even stronger force for good in the world, in the years ahead.

Okay, so... the UK will refuse to trade with some countries, then? Hmm...

 

[The Don]

Is there anything sadder than seeing a butthurt leave campaign organisation crying about how Brexit is going to be rubbish now because of remainers making Boris Johnson prime minister?

I think they see both Theresa May and Boris Johnson as remainers in disguise who have been too willing to make a deal with the EU. OTOH a true leaver would have stuck to his guns and got the deal they eanted

 

[Lukraak_Sisser]

Exactly. If only the evil remainers had not forced Farage et al to immediately step back they would have negotiated the 'True Deal'.

Now it looks like they had no plan, no strategy and no clue.

 

[Aber]

Okay, so... the UK will refuse to trade with some countries, then? Hmm...

Not quite, but

Raab said the sanctions would target 25 Russian nationals involved in the death of the Russian lawyer Sergei Magnitsky, 20 Saudi nationals involved in the murder of the journalist Khashoggi, two high-ranking generals implicated in the systemic killing of the Rohingyas in Myanmar, and two organisations using forced labour in North Korea.

https://www.theguardian.com/law/2020/jul/06/dominic-raab-to-annouce-uk-sanctions-against-human-rights-abusers

 

[P.J. Denyer]

they seem upset even though they got what they wanted.

"We didn't want a victory we just wanted to fight"-New Model Army

 

[Wudang]

Okay, so... the UK will refuse to trade with some countries, then? Hmm...

Looking forward to seeing the UK apply sanctions to the countries selling the Saudis weapons of which the main one was <checks notes> the UK. That's OK we're already applying sanctions to ourselves.

 

[catsmate]

Is there anything sadder than seeing a butthurt leave campaign organisation crying about how Brexit is going to be rubbish now because of remainers making Boris Johnson prime minister?

I'm struggling to see their point. Enough remainers voted Tory to get Johnson in with a fat majority, enabling him to royally **** things up?

They're now beginning to notice that Brexit is a disaster and need to find someone, anyone at all, to blame for the current disaster.
Otherwise they'd have to take responsibility...

 

[The Don]

They're now beginning to notice that Brexit is a disaster and need to find someone, anyone at all, to blame for the current disaster.
Otherwise they'd have to take responsibility...

I honestly think that most Brexiteers are deluded enough to think that if they were in charge of process then Johnny (or Jacques or Johann) Foreigner would have recognised their innate superiority and agreed to all of their terms.

As a result Brexit would have been a resounding success if they had been allowed to lead it.

Because we have (so far) failed to secure the trade deal they want, anyone involved with the negotiation must be a Remoaner fifth-columnist regardless of their professed enthusiasm for Brexit.

 

[Jack by the hedge]

This unpleasantness could all have been avoided if we had just appointed a proper Leaver to negotiate with those dreadful Europeans in the first place. Someone like Brexit Bulldog David Davis would have been ideal. He would simply and clearly have told Johnny Foreigner what our requirements were and they would meekly have conceded to his obvious natural authority.

Oh, wait. Maybe I mean he would be lazy and useless and the result would be a catastrophe.

Yes, I think that's what I meant.

 

[The Don]

This unpleasantness could all have been avoided if we had just appointed a proper Leaver to negotiate with those dreadful Europeans in the first place. Someone like Brexit Bulldog David Davis would have been ideal. He would simply and clearly have told Johnny Foreigner what our requirements were and they would meekly have conceded to his obvious natural authority.

That's an excellent point, I cannot imagine why he was never allowed any kind of role in the Brexit negotiations. Instead they put some lazy ****-wit in charge who had a reputation for being as thick as mince and who reportedly only worked a couple of days a week. I can't remember his name for the life of me........

 

[The Don]

One of the relatively few pieces of good news regarding manufacturing post-Brexit was that Ineos were intending to manufacture their new 4x4, the Grenadier (which IMO looks like a Land Rover Defender 110 in a fake moustache and glasses) next to the Ford engine works in Bridgend.

Ineos founder and CEO Sir Jim Ratcliffe is pro-Brexit and so this was an important example of someone putting their money where their mouth is (unlike other Brexit proponents who seem to be relocating their businesses overseas).

Now it seems that other alternatives have presented themselves.

Plans to build a new 4x4 vehicle plant in Wales have been put on hold by the firm Ineos.

The company said it follows talks with Mercedes-Benz over the acquiring of their Hambach site in Moselle, France.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-53317740

Personally, I think that getting into vehicle manufacturing when there is huge global over-capacity was a pretty poor business decision in any case but doing so in a country with so few trade deals seemed foolhardy to say the least.

Nothing is cast in stone at the moment, but IMO it doesn't look good for Bridgend

 

[catsmate]

I honestly think that most Brexiteers are deluded enough to think that if they were in charge of process then Johnny (or Jacques or Johann) Foreigner would have recognised their innate superiority and agreed to all of their terms.

As a result Brexit would have been a resounding success if they had been allowed to lead it.

Because we have (so far) failed to secure the trade deal they want, anyone involved with the negotiation must be a Remoaner fifth-columnist regardless of their professed enthusiasm for Brexit.

That does sound more like the Brexiteers.

This unpleasantness could all have been avoided if we had just appointed a proper Leaver to negotiate with those dreadful Europeans in the first place. Someone like Brexit Bulldog David Davis would have been ideal. He would simply and clearly have told Johnny Foreigner what our requirements were and they would meekly have conceded to his obvious natural authority.

Oh, wait. Maybe I mean he would be lazy and useless and the result would be a catastrophe.

Yes, I think that's what I meant.

Well "lazy and useless" does sound more like Davis...

 

[catsmate]

One of the relatively few pieces of good news regarding manufacturing post-Brexit was that Ineos were intending to manufacture their new 4x4, the Grenadier (which IMO looks like a Land Rover Defender 110 in a fake moustache and glasses) next to the Ford engine works in Bridgend.

Ineos founder and CEO Sir Jim Ratcliffe is pro-Brexit and so this was an important example of someone putting their money where their mouth is (unlike other Brexit proponents who seem to be relocating their businesses overseas).

Now it seems that other alternatives have presented themselves.



https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-53317740

Personally, I think that getting into vehicle manufacturing when there is huge global over-capacity was a pretty poor business decision in any case but doing so in a country with so few trade deals seemed foolhardy to say the least.

Nothing is cast in stone at the moment, but IMO it doesn't look good for Bridgend

Ah yes, the man who felt that crashing the UK Economy was cheaper than cleaning up the pollution problems at Middlesbrough...