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uke2se
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Yeah, food standards is such a non-issue. Who cares what we eat?
abaddon
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Sure. UK holiday makers should plan to starve themselves i the US. This somehow makes sense to you? No, of course they don't. I am going to guess that UK holidaymakers in the US are sufficiently intelligent to realise that a brief ingestion is very different from a continuous ingestion. Is my guess overestimating the intelligence of the British?
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Traditionally the CTA applied to anyone who was living in either the UK or Ireland (plus IoM, CIs, etc.) legally, i.e. passport holders plus anyone else with legal residence. That's why there had to be parity in immigration controls between the two countries. A hard CTA would simply mean excluding certain legal residents from either country, principly non-Irish EU citizens, but I daresay that as the UK adjusts its immigration policy post-Brexit, Ireland may wish to make exclusions of their own.
Bear in mind that the CTA was never primarily about people popping over the NI/RoI border for the day. It was to facilitate British and Irish citizens already living and working in the other country to continue doing so.
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Not everyone who has been to the United States would advocate US gun laws, or US hire-at-will laws are adopted here either.
You're not comparing similar things. It would be very easy to refrain from eating meat while in the USA. The gun laws and employment laws would affect everyone living in the UK: not something that it would be possible for a UK resident to opt out of.Not everyone who has been to the United States would advocate US gun laws, or US hire-at-will laws are adopted here either.
Of course I'm comparing similar things. It's easy to avoid guns and being employed in the US while visiting there too.
Gun laws and employment laws would actually affect a smaller proportion of UK residents than food protection laws
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Are you in favour then of lowering UK food standards to get a trade deal with the USA?
No. I'm in favour of raising UK food standards to get a trade deal with the USA.
Wilfully missing the point. If USA gun laws were adopted here, it would likely increase the chances of UK citizens in the UK being shot or otherwise negatively affected by increased gun crime.
If UK citizens wish to avoid buying meat sourced from the USA, they will partly be able to do so - by checking labels or asking when buying store-bought meat. Of course it won't be so easy to check where meat served in restaurants originated from.
If and when a trade deal with the USA is agreed that means we do accept the meat products you're referring to, most people will quickly accept the new products. All the fuss right now is just another example of EU protectionism - similar to the fuss about "genetically modified foods."
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Hear hear, think how much money I could make selling "dangerous electrical goods" and "child sweat-shop trainers" once we have freed ourselves of the damn protectionist EU policies.
....and lower food standards will likely result in negative health outcomes for people.
Nearly everyone eats nearly every day, so even small changes are likely to have widespread consequences.
That's a gross oversimplification of the complexity of the food supply chain. One US-sourced meat of a lower standard than the current UK standard is in the supply chain, most people won't be able to determine whether they're eating it.
Of course people will accept the new products but then again people are prepared to buy all kinds of unsafe and adulterated goods if they think it'll save them a few bob. Part of the job of legislation is to protect the public from unscrupulous people and bodies who may wish to take advantage of them - and that includes foreign governments
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But that wouldn't work. That's sort of the point.
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And the 56% of people in Norn Iron who voted against Brexit and are now having it foisted on them?
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That is what they get for aligning with England. So they can choose which is more important to them, an open boarder with the EU or remaining in the UK.
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Now, but we are talking after Brexit when that will no longer be the case.
....and lower food standards will likely result in negative health outcomes for people.
Nearly everyone eats nearly every day, so even small changes are likely to have widespread consequences.
That's a gross oversimplification of the complexity of the food supply chain. One US-sourced meat of a lower standard than the current UK standard is in the supply chain, most people won't be able to determine whether they're eating it.
Of course people will accept the new products but then again people are prepared to buy all kinds of unsafe and adulterated goods if they think it'll save them a few bob. Part of the job of legislation is to protect the public from unscrupulous people and bodies who may wish to take advantage of them - and that includes foreign governments
And who knows but as part of the trade agreement the USA would insist on us not having to label the source of meat. So who knows if we as consumers would be able to select by source of meat.
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Are you claiming current UK standards arelowere than the USA?
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