Brexit: Now What? Part IV

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The main problem is in standards, delays and uncertainty.

At the moment, a UK company can ship to a German company with no more paperwork than it would to ship to another UK company. There are common standards, so the German company knows that its incoming goods are compliant, and it knows that there are not going to be customs delays (I've had samples shipped from China for work, and it's very difficult to estimate when they will arrive).

For clarity, standards are generally set at a European (not EU) level, and so Brexit should have a limited impact.
 
For clarity, standards are generally set at a European (not EU) level, and so Brexit should have a limited impact.

Except if we want to have frictionless trade with anyone with differeing standards.

We could retain the EU standards - aligning with the largest proportion of out trade and keeping that frictionless. However if the UK were to have frictionless trade with the US, it would need to accept US standards.

Where these standards differ (say allowing chlorinated chicken) then if the UK accepts both, and there is a frictionless trade between the UK and the US, then there is nothing stopping a UK importer importing US chicken and exporting it to the EU.

By "frictionless" I am meaning trade as it is now between say, Calais and Dover.
 
Rudd has resigned. Good riddance.

I agree with you about something in this thread.

....but perhaps for different reasons ;)

Amber Rudd was a prominent Remoaner in the cabinet - She'll likely be replaced with an enthusiastic Brexiteer. If one was of a conspiratorial bent, one might think that the deportation target information and emails might have been leaked by those who wanted her gone :tinfoil
 
....but perhaps for different reasons ;)

Amber Rudd was a prominent Remoaner in the cabinet - She'll likely be replaced with an enthusiastic Brexiteer. If one was of a conspiratorial bent, one might think that the deportation target information and emails might have been leaked by those who wanted her gone :tinfoil

I had thought of that, but even so...
 
Seems the leave campaign's plan to bring back power to the UK parliament might be frustrated by leave supporters who don't want power to be given to the UK parliament link

Yes they are all in favour of repatriating power to our courts and parliament, so long as they shut up and stay out of the way. The idea that parliamentary scrutiny of such a massively important negotiation is 'undemocratic' is bizarre, especially given the calibre of the current cabinet...
 
Consensus of opinion among the pro Brexit crowd in the pub is that it is an outrage to put a Muslim immigrant in charge of the Home Office.

he will 'look after his mates' and not deport muslims and will 'let them all in'

Brexit was about getting them all out apparently.

Newspaper comment sections are busy deleting racist comments by the thousand.
 
Consensus of opinion among the pro Brexit crowd in the pub is that it is an outrage to put a Muslim immigrant in charge of the Home Office.

he will 'look after his mates' and not deport muslims and will 'let them all in'

Brexit was about getting them all out apparently.

Newspaper comment sections are busy deleting racist comments by the thousand.

But... but.. . I've been informed that xenophobia was an insignificant part of the Brexit vote.

I was hoping that the Windrush fiasco would have made people realise (at least the Mail) the ugly side of the approach.
 
Rock and a hard place.

Getting crunchy.. Leaving the Customs union is at least showing integrity with the leave campaign (or parts of it). Taking back control and putting up a hard border so we limit who and what comes in to the UK was used to appeal to the more racist voters. That doesn't fit with a free and open border in Ireland. If May jettisons Ireland, the current fallback agreement between the UK and the EU, then she loses control in the Commons. If she adopts the hard border the economy tanks, domestic taxes will rise and the Tory party will be out of power for a generation.
 
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Getting crunchy.. Leaving the Customs union is at least showing integrity with the leave campaign (or parts of it). Taking back control and putting up a hard border so we limit who and what comes in to the UK was used to appeal to the more racist voters. That doesn't fit with a free and open border in Ireland. If May jettisons Ireland, the current fallback agreement between the UK and the EU, then she loses control in the Commons. If she adopts the hard border the economy tanks, domestic taxes will rise and the Tory party will be out of power for a generation.

Very crunchy. With battle lines already well established it's pretty hard to see how delaying the decision by a few weeks is going to help. Are there enough arms that can be twisted?
 
The EU are still expecting to get their €50 billion payment from the UK, but to quote the EU negotiator "Nothing is agreed until everything is agreed."

And the EU are the ones with all the power in this negotiation, May is little more than a hostage to her own divided party.
 
And the EU are the ones with all the power in this negotiation, May is little more than a hostage to her own divided party.
The UK are the ones offering to hand over €50 billion: that gives them quite a lot of power - the EU is relying on that money.
 
As well as being wrong, your comment is also a non-sequitur: it doesn't address the point about the €50 billion.
 
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