If the UK weren't in the process of Brexit then the EU would be more inclined to intervene on the UK's behalf (as it has repeatedly for Airbus). Because, as far as the EU is concerned, this is a UK only issue it demonstrates how hard it is to deal with the international big beasts when you're all on your own.
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If the UK weren't in the process of Brexit then the EU would be more inclined to intervene on the UK's behalf (as it has repeatedly for Airbus). Because, as far as the EU is concerned, this is a UK only issue it demonstrates how hard it is to deal with the international big beasts when you're all on your own.
You don't know that the EU would be more inclined. You're just making that up. We're still in the EU now, and the EU still dreams of getting us to remain - if anything, they should be trying harder than ever to help us with this issue so as to show the wonderful benefits that remaining in the EU would provide.
Really?
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I'm not sensing any desire from the EU to have the UK remain. You've made your choice and now we'd just like to get on with it.
abaddon
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No. That would be welching on commitments already made. The suggestion is no surprise however. Britain has a history of doing that.
The EU has been very inclined in the past - especially in the case of Airbus and Rolls Royce - to act to protect aerospace jobs in the UK against US threats of tariffs.
Hahahahaha, no !
abaddon
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Why? The EU does not need a pariah nation. Why would it?
Go. Depart. Foxtrot right oscar and see what it does to you.
ddt
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Feel free to report it as off-topic.
The very probably negative outcome for British industry will be due to Brexit..
The major UK parties are resigned to Brexit, so what is there to convince? And didn't one famous British PM once say "this lady's not for turning"?
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The EU does not dream of getting us to remain, don't flatter yourself.
As for this decision, if it goes ahead it will be an absolute disaster for NI. Its hard to describe how big a disaster this is, thousands of jobs on the line just as we're on the cusp of Brexit which in itself threatens the agrifood sector with the loss of up to a third of its trade and more thousands of jobs.
All that and the UK government's master plan for policing the border apparently involves drones. Drones! Here.
What could possibly go wrong?
abaddon
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That's a two forked twig right there.
The image you post is CGI bollocks. Nevertheless, such signs are, in fact, real. Just that image is fake. It helps not that fakery is posted as real, it simply portrays NI as a hotbed of wingnuttery. Such genuine signs were posted, but not that one.
If you want to post pictures of the wingnutterry that is NI, that is fine by me. Posting fakes is a whole other thing.
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No, I think that picture makes my point despite that particular image being a photoshop. NI's immediate future is looking very grim indeed, thanks to the wingnuttery that is Brexit, (which the majority here didn't even vote for).
Because it illustrates that the notion that we'll be able to get some great trade deal with the US is yet more Brexiteer nonsense. They are doing this when we could still get the EU to back us in a trade dispute.
abaddon
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Then I cannot tell where we disagree.
Some more BBC charts showing why IMO the government is being dangerously incompetent by focusing on the trade in goods and not services post-Brexit.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-41413558
Sadly, it will likely be very much harder to sell services into the EU post-Brexit and our £50bn trade surplus in services is likely to evaporate
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-41413558
Sadly, it will likely be very much harder to sell services into the EU post-Brexit and our £50bn trade surplus in services is likely to evaporate
Strawberry
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Some more BBC charts showing why IMO the government is being dangerously incompetent by focusing on the trade in goods and not services post-Brexit.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-41413558
Sadly, it will likely be very much harder to sell services into the EU post-Brexit and our £50bn trade surplus in services is likely to evaporate
Aw, diddums. I'm about to have an international border complete with violent Irish Republicans getting shooty dumped on my doorstep, and this is all happening because the majority in England and Wales outvoted the people of Scotland and Northern Ireland.
You have no idea how much I hate Britain and all its works right now.
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FTFY.
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BBC News: Brexit - Are more British nationals applying for dual nationality in the EU?
"Tens of thousands more UK citizens applied for citizenship in other EU countries in the 12 months after the Brexit vote than in the previous year, according to data obtained by the BBC.
Ireland received by far the most applications for dual nationality.
But for all the countries that had data covering July 2016 to June 2017, applications have more than doubled.
In countries which had data only for calendar years, there was a sharp rise from 2015 to 2016 as well."
"Tens of thousands more UK citizens applied for citizenship in other EU countries in the 12 months after the Brexit vote than in the previous year, according to data obtained by the BBC.
Ireland received by far the most applications for dual nationality.
But for all the countries that had data covering July 2016 to June 2017, applications have more than doubled.
In countries which had data only for calendar years, there was a sharp rise from 2015 to 2016 as well."
There will be negotiations but they will be in the public domain, eg:
- EU parliament motion saying that the EU customs border must be at Belfast, between there and the rest of the United Kingdom
- Juncker saying it will take miracles to move the negotiations on
The interesting thing at the conference will be how much talk there will be of EU obstructionism and 'no deal', and who from.
So Derry, Dundalk and other places will be accessible from the Republic without any border checks? That's a fascinating prospect. What does the DUP have to say about that?
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