Brexit: Now What? Part III

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Aepervius said:
50% want death penalty 40% want corporal punishment in school which right there tells you a lot about their mentality and it is probably useless to tell them that both have been conclusively shown to either be useless or downright counter productive.
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To be fair, even those things are not as insane as wanting:

4 farthings to the penny twelve pennies to the shilling, two shillings to the florin, 2-shillings and sixpence to the half crown and twenty shillings to the pound, and 21 shillings in a guinea


I've probably missed a few conversion factors out due to being just younger than decimilisation
 
jimbob said:
I use opera mini on my phone, and its news feed includes a fair number of stories from the Express.

Although most stories are still spittle-flecked anti EU or gung-ho pro Brexit, I'm starting to see a number that are getting a bit worried now

http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/dail...hworth-NHS-Labour-Liberal-Democrats-Brexit-EU
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The Express is very excited about the blue passports:

The headline on the Sunday Express is "True blue passport reborn". The paper says "Britain's iconic dark blue passports" are to make a return as part of a £500m post-Brexit redesign. It claims high-level discussions have already taken place with potential bidders for the contract.

The paper reports that the new travel documents will replace the burgundy EU passports, which it says have been previously described as "a source of national humiliation". The paper says the new passports will start being issued in 2019 - the year Britain is due to leave the EU.
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Another £500m to find to redesign the passports :rolleyes:

I never found the burgundy ones humiliating - indeed I was happy to have one.
 
As an American, all I say is this:

1. I don't care who is right, or wrong.

2. I don't want to hear of "Winners" and "Losers".

3. I want to see the best possible outcome for both sides.


That's me.
 
Jules Galen said:
As an American, all I say is this:

1. I don't care who is right, or wrong.

2. I don't want to hear of "Winners" and "Losers".

3. I want to see the best possible outcome for both sides.


That's me.
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Why "as an American"? Is it characteristic of Americans that they don't care about right and wrong, or winning and losing? I didn't know that.
 
The Don said:
The Express is very excited about the blue passports:



Another £500m to find to redesign the passports :rolleyes:

I never found the burgundy ones humiliating - indeed I was happy to have one.
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True:

They are starting to carry some more realistic stories, but the vast majority are still blind optimism:


And the story you are talking about:

DSC_1329 by jimmypippa, on Flickr


My daughter has a paper round on the weekend...

Although if Brexit simply meant spending half a billion on blue passports and succumbing gto free ovement of people, and being part of the customs union, and paying our previous EU membership without the rebate, it would be a cheap price to pay for Brexit
 
jimbob said:
To be fair, even those things are not as insane as wanting:

4 farthings to the penny twelve pennies to the shilling, two shillings to the florin, 2-shillings and sixpence to the half crown and twenty shillings to the pound, and 21 shillings in a guinea


I've probably missed a few conversion factors out due to being just younger than decimilisation
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I do like the fact that pre-decimal currency was often referred to as Lsd...
 
McHrozni said:
Apparently the negotiating team is certain security is their finest card.

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-39472207

In other words, if EU calls the bluff, UK needs to quit NATO as well in order to make good on the threat. Thin ice is thin.

McHrozni
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Maybe Brexit will now be out (of the EU) - out (of the EEA) - out (of the Council of Europe) - out (of the WTO) - out (of NATO)

Titanium Brexit FTW !!!!1!!1!!!!1!1!! :rolleyes:
 
jimbob said:
I do like the fact that pre-decimal currency was often referred to as Lsd...
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IIRC that was from the Latin - librae, solidi, denarii

Strange that little Englanders are so keen on something so resoundingly foreign. :D
 
Guybrush Threepwood said:
Just to cheer everyone up there's a long interview with Arron Banks in The Observer.

In summary, Brexit is just the start of turning the UK into the 51st state of a Trumpistan modelled on Putin's Russia. :eye-poppi
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Here's a good candidate for the emerging chilling philosophical connection between Russians and alt-rightists, in my mind (nice piece in The Atlantic). In their many forms, the answers to the eternal pressing question, "How shall we live?" are more often horrible than not, prescriptions for terror in the form of rationalist nonsense posing as universal truths. In my view, Brexit and Trump are very clearly part of a same agenda. Cackling Theresa May is one of the growing horde of disciples.

By the time liberal democracy finds its spine, I wonder if there will be anything left but a howling mob that won't listen. Back to bread and circus, if we're not careful.
 
The Don said:
Maybe Brexit will now be out (of the EU) - out (of the EEA) - out (of the Council of Europe) - out (of the WTO) - out (of NATO)

Titanium Brexit FTW !!!!1!!1!!!!1!1!! :rolleyes:
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Two of those is beyond titanium already. This is diamondium Brexit.

McHrozni
 
Guybrush Threepwood said:
Just to cheer everyone up there's a long interview with Arron Banks in The Observer.

In summary, Brexit is just the start of turning the UK into the 51st state of a Trumpistan modelled on Putin's Russia. :eye-poppi
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Awful. But the obvious question is why would he want to do that? Does he really think he can rule UK from behind the scenes?

I can see why Russian agents would be pursuing such strategy, but why would a wealthy British businessman act as their agent in the first place?

McHrozni
 
Hlafordlaes said:
By the time liberal democracy finds its spine, I wonder if there will be anything left but a howling mob that won't listen. Back to bread and circus, if we're not careful.
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Sometimes a complete breakdown is necessary to rebuilt what was lost. The thing is there is no guarantee rebuiling is even possible in the first place.

McHrozni
 
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