Brexit: Now What? Part III

[P.J. Denyer]

You forget, British is best. Our products are the best in the world. Who needs common standards and quality control.
Our cars, ships, motorbikes, locomotives, airliners, televisions etc were the best in the world. Foreign manufacturers didn’t play fair.
Look at motorbikes, Japanese manufacturers seduced buyers with electric starters, disk brakes, 12 volt electrics, more performance, comfort and reliability. It was underhand.

You've forgotten the least sportsmanlike of all. Keeping the oil on the inside. If we'd only thought of that one first.

 

[The Don]

You've forgotten the least sportsmanlike of all. Keeping the oil on the inside. If we'd only thought of that one first.

That oil stops corrosion - it's not a bug it's a feature

 

[The Don]

BBC Newsflash

Article 50 will be triggered on 29 March

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-39325561

Oh well, it was nice being part of the EU with all the advantages for both individuals and the economy at large. It will come as no surprise to you all that IMO Brexit will be an utter fiasco with the end "deal" exceeding our worst expectations

 

[McHrozni]

BBC Newsflash

Article 50 will be triggered on 29 March

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-39325561

Oh well, it was nice being part of the EU with all the advantages for both individuals and the economy at large. It will come as no surprise to you all that IMO Brexit will be an utter fiasco with the end "deal" exceeding our worst expectations

Money quote:

In response to the news, Mr Tusk tweeted: "Within 48 hours of the UK triggering Article 50, I will present the draft Brexit guidelines to the EU27 Member States."

EU is manifestly ready. I can't say the same for UK.

McHrozni

 

[Tolls]

We've got our guidelines!
You must have seen them!
They were the ones written in crayon, with point 4 being "EU gives us all a pony".

 

[McHrozni]

We've got our guidelines!
You must have seen them!
They were the ones written in crayon, with point 4 being "EU gives us all a pony".

Do you know what Europeans do to ponies?

http://c8.alamy.com/comp/B67D5W/the...old-town-which-sells-horse-burgers-B67D5W.jpg

McHrozni

 

[Hlafordlaes]

I agree with the highlighted part.... but disagree with the rest. The sense I get is that continental EU wants the UK to be clear on the kind of Brexit that it wants and first and foremost they want the process to get started. I don't get the sense that a hard Brexit is what is being pursued with much vigour.

The problem is, there are few viable alternatives between In and Out that would not lead to making concessions that would make a shambles of the EU enterprise. This makes Out the default if the UK stays its course. Any concessions are likely to be mostly in the area of letting displaced citizens carry on without uprooting their lives or careers. But the elephant in the room, relatively free market access, can only be a choice between the two extremes, In or Out, as In implies levels of integration the UK has explicitly rejected already.

 

[The Don]

Do you know what Europeans do to ponies?

http://c8.alamy.com/comp/B67D5W/the...old-town-which-sells-horse-burgers-B67D5W.jpg

McHrozni

I've never understood the squeamishness about eating horse if, like me, you're willing to eat pig, sheep or cow

 

[The Don]

The problem is, there are few viable alternatives between In and Out that would not lead to making concessions that would make a shambles of the EU enterprise. This makes Out the default if the UK stays its course. Any concessions are likely to be mostly in the area of letting displaced citizens carry on without uprooting their lives or careers. But the elephant in the room, relatively free market access, can only be a choice between the two extremes, In or Out, as In implies levels of integration the UK has explicitly rejected already.

.....and yet we were repeatedly assured by the Leave campaign that we would continue to have unfettered access to the EEA

I don't know how many people voted Leave on that basis but they were sold a pup IMO.

 

[Craig B]

According to a tweet by Alyn Smith MEP, the governments of Wales, N Ireland and Scotland weren't told about the triggering of Art 50 before the news was released to the media.

 

[Amazer]

The problem is, there are few viable alternatives between In and Out that would not lead to making concessions that would make a shambles of the EU enterprise. This makes Out the default if the UK stays its course. Any concessions are likely to be mostly in the area of letting displaced citizens carry on without uprooting their lives or careers. But the elephant in the room, relatively free market access, can only be a choice between the two extremes, In or Out, as In implies levels of integration the UK has explicitly rejected already.

Sure... but that is the choice of the UK government. It's not something that's being pushed by the EU.

 

[Archie Gemmill Goal]

According to a tweet by Alyn Smith MEP, the governments of Wales, N Ireland and Scotland weren't told about the triggering of Art 50 before the news was released to the media.

Did anyone expect any different?

 

[Architect]

Did anyone expect any different?

One had expected that Ms. May and her government might have realised the damage they were doing to their own standing in the other home nations and have acted accordingly.

As a nationalist, I'm not disappointed that they failed to do so.

 

[Hlafordlaes]

Sure... but that is the choice of the UK government. It's not something that's being pushed by the EU.

Agreed.

 

[Aepervius]

Money quote:

In response to the news, Mr Tusk tweeted: "Within 48 hours of the UK triggering Article 50, I will present the draft Brexit guidelines to the EU27 Member States."

EU is manifestly ready. I can't say the same for UK.

McHrozni

So much for Ceptimus "EU is not ready". (yes this is still reversing the burden , the UK has to present a plan, the EU does not, but it is funny to see that contrary to his claim, and in spite of the burden being on UK side, tehre still seems to be something ready).

 

[jimbob]

From elsewhere



Article 50 Day - what will you do?

It is soon that annual tradition in the English calendar, A50 day. Historians hypothesise it dates back to the year 2017 when a bunch of mad ****ers trashed the country, but all historical records of this were lost in the Great Collapse.

The tradition is for everyone on this day to do something reckless with consequences that are both long term and completely unknown.

I'm going to tie myself to a wind turbine blade and set it going. Will I be flung off? Will I just get dizzy? Will I be decapitated? No one knows! And that's the fun.

 

[Andy_Ross]

Try the Blindfold Motorway Dash.
Wear a blindfold, when you think it's the right moment dash across the motorway, try to reach the other side unscathed.

 

[jimbob]

Try the Blindfold Motorway Dash.
Wear a blindfold, when you think it's the right moment dash across the motorway, try to reach the other side unscathed.

I think you should spin yourself round first, to attune your sense of direction to the Brexiteers'

 

[jimbob]

From that same thread:

I have been reading the comments of Brexiteers, on the internet; they are euphoric. The only time there has been such euphoria in Britain was the outbreak of the First World War.

 

[P.J. Denyer]

That oil stops corrosion - it's not a bug it's a feature

And as it burns off the fins of an aircooled engine it provides a handy smokescreen at traffic lights.