Ian Osborne
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Don't you just love it when the election's comedy character understands its most important issue better than the sitting Prime Minister and the leader of the opposition.
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Don't you just love it when the election's comedy character understands its most important issue better than the sitting Prime Minister and the leader of the opposition.
3point14
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Comedy electioneers are often ahead of the curve.
The following were all policies of the MRLP way before any serious politician stopped laughing at them:
24-hour licensing laws
Lowering the voting age to 18
Abolition of dog licences
The pedestrianisation of Carnaby Street
Passports for pets
French Guiana is part of France and therefore part of the EU. There is no proper border structure between the EU and neighbouring countries such as Brazil. The EU turns a blind eye to this although it maintains that it could never do the same in Ireland. Yet another example of EU hypocrisy.
Strawberry
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French Guiana and Brazil have one single, solitary border road between them - the Oyapock River Bridge. It has manned customs posts at both ends of the bridge, and here for your education is a picture of it...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oyapock_River_Bridge#/media/File:Postes_de_contrôle.JPG
For you to even try and compare that to the Irish border, with hundreds of border roads and countless unofficial crossings through private land is an astonishing level of ignorance.
dudalb
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And French Guinea is basically really thick,really hard to traverse Jungle. It sort of provides it's own border protections. I don't think Ireland has much in the way of thick,impassable jungles.
That is why France located it infamous "Devil's Island" penal colony there.
See "Papillion" for details.
"You are now Prisoners of the penal colony of French Guinea....from which there is No Escape".
"Wel
Strawberry
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Exactly. You are now prisoners of the penal colony of Co. Fermanagh...from which there are so many escape routes even half the British Army couldn't cover all the damn things when they were stationed there, and the local population will gleefully help you" doesn't really sound as threatening, does it?
It wouldn't make for much of a movie though. Papillon walks down a country lane and hey presto he's free couldn't really be stretched out for 90 minutes.
Difficult to post links when posting from a phone. But if you're not too lazy, you can just Google 3rd quarter UK GDP and similar for EU GDP and verify the figures for yourself.
Strawberry
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That information only further undermines your assertion that the EU "turns a blind eye" to its border in French Guiana. If they're finding it difficult to control due to dense rainforest then they obviously are trying to control it.
And for your information, there are no dense rainforests on the Irish border.
Information Analyst
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More to the point, the Oyapock River itself forms almost all of the border between French Guiana and Brazil, and it clearly a very wide body of water.
p0lka
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Why do some people refuse to change their minds, despite the mountains of evidence?
"almost all" are the weasle words here. Also you focus on one river boundary and ignore the other river boundary with Suriname. You would make a good EU bureaucrat: the EU needs people who apply different standards to suit their biased and hypocritical politics.
Strawberry
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You haven't made any case for saying that the EU are hypocritical about controlling their borders. French Guiana has customs posts at the few border crossings it actually shares with non-EU countries, and according to a link you posted, they also have both the Gendarmarie and the French Foreign Legion running around the rain forests trying to police it.
You haven't even made half a point about the Irish border by bringing French Guiana into the discussion, you've just made yourself look silly.
Lukraak_Sisser
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So, to make the borders identical all that needs doing is reduce the population density around the irish border by a factor 10 or 20 or so, move all population centers further apart, dig a large river with only few crossings, plant a large jungle in the rest of the area and then actively patrol that border.
Sure, that sounds like a totally open border.
Sure, that sounds like a totally open border.
Sounds more reasonable than most proposed ideas I've read!
Anyway we should all be able to read the real Brexit plan in the next day or two so we can all stop speculating.
Archie Gemmill Goal
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Assuming it lasts that long?
I see you gave up on the growth data and have now moved onto something equally absurd.
How many people coming across the border illegally to French Guiana end up in Europe.
Indeed, how much illegal trade occurs across that border?
Are there lorry loads of goods coming over, through the jungle?
No?
So what on earth makes you think that this is in any way comparable to the Irish border? Or did you just read this on some Leave-oriented page and didn't give it another thought?
Wudang
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My diet doesn't allow fudge.
Current leaks are that May wants to sell her "plan" to MPs one at a time so she can tailor the fudge to suit.
"This will allow us to (delete as appropriate)
a) crack down on
b) freely allow
c) adopt a flexible response to
(please select from the following issues)
........."
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