Cont: Brexit: Now What? Part 5

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Lothian said:
Seems America First, Donald Trump has named the EU America's trade enemy No 1. Explains why he supports Brexit and the weakening of the Union.
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Actually this could explain Trumps entire foreign policy. If everything comes down to 'winning' and you measure winning in terms of whose making the most money then the EU, Japan, Canada, Mexico are all enemies. it makes sense, if you don't understand diplomacy, economics or geo-politics. By the same token North Korea and Russia are not enemies.
 
Theresa May announces more investment (from the magic money tree) for the aerospace industry.

The prime minister will also say that her Brexit plan will secure millions of aviation jobs in Britain.
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Millions ? :confused:

At the moment there are 120k or thereabouts employed in the industry

https://www.statista.com/statistics/605021/employment-figures-uk-aerospace-industry/

Nevermind, facts were never important when it comes to Brexit. :mad:

At a speech at the Farnborough Airshow on Monday, she will offer more than £300m of government money for several projects, including research on more environmentally-friendly aircraft.

There will be additional money for two new spaceports - one in Cornwall, one in Scotland - and a long-awaited commitment to build a new high-tech fighter aircraft that will eventually replace the Eurofighter Typhoon.
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When industries have to be bribed heavily to stay in a country after Brexit, maybe, just maybe, Brexit isn't going to be the economic boon that Brexiteers have billed it to be. :rolleyes:

Meanwhile, the services industry, which accounts for 80% of GDP will just have to fend for itself.
 
catsmate said:
True, but Trump seems to display an even wider range of ignorance than even the run-of-the-mill Brexiteer.
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Yes, but he does show the same type of understanding as the prominent Brexiters, such as David "the first thing we'll do is sign a trade deal with Germany" Davis
 
Part of the rationale for Brexit was that it would allow the UK to "reclaim control of its borders".

The government is proposing a registration system for EU "aliens" (a throwback to when Daddy Don moved to the UK in the 1960s and had to register at his local police station) so we can keep track of them.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-44839733

Ignoring the fact that IMO it's highly unlikely that a system on this scale will be available and working properly until many years after Brexit, it's likely that a large number of EU citizens resident in the UK will not register - for a variety of reasons. As a result Migration Observatory reckon that quite a few will drop off the radar.
 
In another case of cognitive dissonance, the DUP is supporting Jacob Rees-Mogg's amendment to the Brexit bill to guarantee that there will be no hard border between Northern Ireland and the rest of the UK.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-44844107

They also want no hard border between Northern Ireland and Ireland and a hard Brexit. AFAIK these things are fundamentally incompatible.
 
The Don said:
Theresa May announces more investment (from the magic money tree) for the aerospace industry.

Millions ? :confused:

At the moment there are 120k or thereabouts employed in the industry

https://www.statista.com/statistics/605021/employment-figures-uk-aerospace-industry/

Nevermind, facts were never important when it comes to Brexit. :mad:
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And a 300mn subsidy program that would produce "millions" of job would be the most cost-effective job creation program in all of recorded history. It would already be great if a 300mn subsidy program would create a couple of thousand jobs.
 
Nadine "tenuous relationship with reality" Dorries talking about a new "brexit" party. Perhaps she's the competent Brexiteer that ceptimus was hoping would come forward and deliver all those self-evident benefits of leaving the EU
 
Filippo Lippi said:
Nadine "tenuous relationship with reality" Dorries talking about a new "brexit" party. Perhaps she's the competent Brexiteer that ceptimus was hoping would come forward and deliver all those self-evident benefits of leaving the EU
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That's UKIP surely ? :confused:
 
The Don said:
Regarding the highlighted, it seems that the difficulty seems to be from the UK side. Until yesterday there wasn't even an idea of what we wanted - and then it turned out to be mutually incompatible. :confused:

Which ridiculous demands are you referring to, as a prerequisite for the UK leaving the EU ?
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Being bound to a non contradictory solution of course.
 
KDLarsen said:
You clearly haven't heard: Dancing means dancing. The people clearly voted for a dance, so just get on with the dancing! :D
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And a don't worry each part of the orchestra will be playing in whatever time they choose. It will be the best dance ever.
 
Degeneve said:
And where? In front of the CJEU? :D

Does Trump think that in such a case SCOTUS might finally have a word in the judicial proceedings or on the ruling?
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In the international court, with the missiles and such. Once the UK bombs brustles into submission it will be easy.

Remember this is trump, lawsuits are not about laws, or facts, they are threats and weapons to be wielded. So it would go to the traditional court for such international disputes, the battlefield.
 
I guess either Trump or May garbled the message. What Trump probably said (or meant to say) was 'Leave without any deal and let the EU sue you.'
 
ceptimus said:
I guess either Trump or May garbled the message. What Trump probably said (or meant to say) was 'Leave without any deal and let the EU sue you.'
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What makes you think that ? :confused:

Donald Trump has a long history of suing people that he feels he has a contractual dispute with and/or as a basic intimidatory tactic. Advising Theresa May to sue would be entirely in line with his behaviour.
 
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