Cont: Brexit: Now What? Magic 8 Ball's up

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Nessie said:
I think that the wholesale fish merchant, the wholesale florist and the wholesale fruit and veg trader will have a very good idea of how their own business runs.
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You say that now, but I remember the wholesale florist interviewed who voted for brexit, that argues that he didn't really understand what taking back your borders would mean to him importing dutch flowers.
 
The Don said:
One of the side effects of WWII rationing with the low sugar, low meat content, high vegetable content and so on combined with a levelling of the playing field was that people in the UK were, on average, better nourished than they were pre-war.
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Acturial weight charts are based on 1948 averages, so it is no surprise almost half the population are now classed as overweight or obese compared to the svelte pull-in-your-belts post-war population.
 
ceptimus said:
No doubt the Spanish farmers will be very happy to accept that lorry loads of their produce will sit, rotting and unpaid for, in ports due to trading difficulties after Brexit. "It's for the good of the EU", they will say, "so we're quite happy to lose our income."
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Bloody foreign farmers. Not like our farmers.
 
Does losing a majority cause the government to fall or does there need to be a vote of no confidence?
 
ponderingturtle said:
Does losing a majority cause the government to fall or does there need to be a vote of no confidence?
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Vote of no confidence. And even then it's not entirely clear what happens if it loses. There are conventions, but Johnson has shown no regard for convention.

I think it's time for the Speaker, who speaks for the House, to set precedents in order to preserve the checks and balances in the British system.
 
erwinl said:
In that case, I do think you will have to have a land code sticker on your car, when going abroad with said car. Shame, because having it on the number plate really saves on ugly stickers on the car itself.
edit: Provided there is a no-deal exit, which is what the UK seems to prefer at this time.
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Considering so many nationalists have NI registered cars and they will not comply, I do not think this will be something the Garda will bother to enforce.
 
ponderingturtle said:
Does losing a majority cause the government to fall or does there need to be a vote of no confidence?
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There can be a minority government. David Cameron could have tried to run a minority government, but decided to do a deal with the Lib Dems instead.
 
Well that's a bit of a twist, now a group of Labour MP's want to put May's deal up for yet another vote in the Commons, by amending tomorrow's bill.
 
ceptimus said:
  • Because they're sick of the continued extensions?
  • Because they don't like their news and politics distracted by the ongoing Brexit story?
  • Because there might be some reward for them from the UK in the long term?
  • Because they don't particularly like the EU themselves?
But I agree they probably won't. The big powers in the EU are desperate to entice/force the UK into remaining (with the help of the UK remainer MPs), and the smaller countries in the UK will most likely go along with the big powers for fear of reprisals.
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You're completely delusional. But then you're a Brexiteer...
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The Don said:
If Brexit does result in an election on 14 October, it turns out that it would have the effect of disenfranchising observant Jews*



https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-49561792

And here's me thinking that Jeremy Corbyn and the Labour Party were the raging anti-Semites :rolleyes:

In truth this is almost certainly an oversight, but had had it been Labour calling the election date, the right wing press would have been up in arms.

* - well unless they choose to vote by post
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Meh, religion.
 
The Don said:
Reading between the lines, Mike Pence seems to have been having a go at Leo Varadkar to back down over Brexit (remember when Obama's mention that the UK may be at the back of the trade deal queue was unacceptable meddling, that seems decades ago). Leo Varadkar is having none of it:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-49563469
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Like his master, Pence seems to have little comprehension of reality.
 
ceptimus said:
We haven't left yet. The argument was always that EU companies would force the EU to provide a good trade deal once we've left.

Remember, the EU refuses to discuss the future trade deal until after we've left. If remoaner MPs get their way, we'll never get the chance to find out whether or not the German car companies and other European manufacturers and farmers will attempt to influence the EU to provide a good trade deal.
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You're lying and trying to rewrite history. Again.
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Nessie said:
Considering so many nationalists have NI registered cars and they will not comply, I do not think this will be something the Garda will bother to enforce.
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Oh you'd be surprised how much bloody-minded enforcement could happen...
 
And the vote is in: the motion is carried, 328 to 301.

About twenty Conservatives voted with the Opposition.

The motion, that "the House has considered the matter of the need to take all necessary steps to ensure that the United Kingdom does not leave the European Union on 31 October 2019 without a withdrawal agreement", has passed.
BoJo was treating this as a Vote of No Confidence, so the two week period provided for in the FTPA begins.
 
Don't know what all this nonsense is about. We sorted out this issue of a PM being to able to go for a general election whenever they wanted with the fixed term parliament act, the next general election after the 2015 one will be 2020.
 
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