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The chancellor has said that there will be no alignment with EU rules post-Brexit. That's our largest export market down the Swannee then :mad:.

Sorry, no link, I'm on my phone.


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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-51157933

The chancellor has warned manufacturers that "there will not be alignment" with the EU after Brexit and insists firms must "adjust" to new regulations.

Speaking to the Financial Times, Sajid Javid admitted not all businesses would benefit from Brexit.

Last year, the automotive, food and drink and pharmaceutical sectors warned the government that no longer aligning with key EU rules would be damaging.

Mr Javid declined to specify which EU rules he wanted to drop.
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The chancellor also said he wanted to double the UK's annual economic growth to between 2.7 and 2.8%.

However, the outgoing governor of the Bank of England, Mark Carney, told the Financial Times last week he thought the UK's trend growth rate was much lower, at between 1 and 1.5%.
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He wants to double growth and I want a full head of hair but that isn't going to happen either. I fail to see how making it far more difficult to trade with a bloc which accounts for close to 50% of our international trade will act as a stimulus for growth. :confused:
 
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P.J. Denyer said:
"All over the world every nation's the same
They've simply no notion of playing the game
They argue with umpires, they cheer when they've won
And they practice beforehand, which spoils ruins the fun."

Flander & Swann predicting post Brexit negotiations with everyone by several years.

Although with Johnson in charge Brabbins and Fyffe might be a better fit.
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Sorry, couldn't suppress my inner scansion pedant, ;)
 
Darat said:
He cant stop lying about Brexit

The Guardian: Boris Johnson's Big Ben Brexit bong plan falls flat
The Guardian: Boris Johnson's Big Ben Brexit bong plan falls flat.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/jan/14/boris-johnsons-big-ben-brexit-bong-plan-falls-flat
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I'm getting the feeling that he's learned from his good buddy trump on this one, namely that the only people who care about his constant lying, are people who don't support or agree with him anyway.

He keeps claiming the Tories will build 40 new hospitals, when they've only set aside funds for actually building 6.

He keeps claiming they'll hire 50,000 new nurses, when their own manifesto made clear that 20,000 of those would be existing NHS nurses who were retained (with no mention of they were planning to do so).

Both of the above lies were pointed out repeatedly during the election campaign, and yet he keeps repeating them.

Edit: Just like he kept repeating the "£350 million for the NHS" during the referendum campaign, when he was told face to face, on camera, that that figure was a gross distortion.
 
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We won't be bound by those EU regulations.... snip Any way you've all had 3 years to get ready...

https://www.theguardian.com/politic...e-no-alignment-on-eu-regulations-after-brexit


I know folk like The Don were concerned that there seemed to be no consideration for services in our post Brexit trading with the EU and was concerned about it was all about manufacturing. Well the government has now realised this and as is seemingly going to be this government's approach to anything difficult, to solve this disparity it's now also throwing manufacturing to the wolves.

NHS England targets not being reached? Drop the targets. Trade agreement with the EU difficult? Drop the trade agreement. HS2 difficult? Drop it.

I am seeing a pattern emerging...
 
I see the government's approach is going to be to blame individual businesses for failing to prepare adequately for Brexit despite there being no way to do so (and never mind that the government hasn't prepared) rather than acknowledging that there may be some disadvantages to Brexit.
 
Darat said:
NHS England targets not being reached? Drop the targets. Trade agreement with the EU difficult? Drop the trade agreement. HS2 difficult? Drop it.

I am seeing a pattern emerging...
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It's called "decluttering" :D
 
I we give them their ******* bongs at eleven o'clock do you think they'd notice if we withdrew A50 at five to? We could all agree to keep saying "Yes you're right, nothing changed it was all Project Fear" until they've found something else to be angry about.

Oh, sorry, I forgot our current Captain and his mates have insured the Titanic for double it's value, stuffed the first class lifeboats with Bolly and caviar, locked down the lower decks and are full speed ahead for the iceburg.
 
shuttlt said:
I'd lay money on it being agreed as a last minute panic whether we have 11 months or 50 years.
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You would lose. We will not be ready to leave on a fully negotiated deal in 11 months. Either transition will be extended or we will move to a sub optimum arrangements in some areas with loads of resources then thrown at it to get off the "no deal" terms and on to a better agreement asap.
 
Lothian said:
You would lose. We will not be ready to leave on a fully negotiated deal in 11 months. Either transition will be extended or we will move to a sub optimum arrangements in some areas with loads of resources then thrown at it to get off the "no deal" terms and on to a better agreement asap.
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Most of the time to reach the current deal was spent pissing about and delaying until the clock ran down. We shall see if the situation is transformed, but I am doubtful.
 
shuttlt said:
Most of the time to reach the current deal was spent pissing about and delaying until the clock ran down. We shall see if the situation is transformed, but I am doubtful.
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IMO Boris Johnson's Dominic Cummings' plan is to leave with no deal and then allow the architects of Brexit to make a killing in the chaos that follows. If I'm right, there's no incentive to even try to do a deal though there may be some mileage in appearing to do one.
 
shuttlt said:
Most of the time to reach the current deal was spent pissing about and delaying until the clock ran down. We shall see if the situation is transformed, but I am doubtful.
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From the UK side, since the referendum the 'Government' have been working flat out on solutions. Admittedly although the government has not changed since the referendum, the 'solution' they want their minions to work on has changed many times and has changed dramatically. This has not in my view been deliberate delay rather it reflects the changing views of the PM responding to the party, the ERG, the public and whim, as well as the changing of PM. Under Boris there have been at least 3 different outcomes requestef with the order that everyone works on the current option 100%. The work on previous ones is binned with each change of plan.

Even if the current No 10 instructions were to stick and the EU were fully on board there is not time to deliver a complete solution. That is because it is difficult. There is not, in many areas, a simple solution we know will work and which we are all just waiting until 31st December to agree with the EU.
 
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