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KDLarsen said:
Allegedly Corbyn walked out of the opposition leaders' meeting with the PM, as the Independent Group was represented, and he doesn't consider them to be part of the opposition.
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And that is the really bad part:Corbyn would probably be as bad as May.Incredibly petty.
 
Dave Rogers said:
Jesus. May has just said that the House of Commons has rejected no-deal, Labour's deal and a customs union, so they're all definitely off the table, and then gone on to ask MP's to back her deal. She has not the slightest vestige of either consistency or self-awareness.

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I think Churchill's definition of insanity might come into play: It's doing the exact same thing in the exact same way under the exact same conditions and expect a different result.
 
3point14 said:
There might be light collateral damage and some good may be thrown out with the bad, but not a one of these MPs should be re-elected. Not one. Clear the ******* house and have a new lot.
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Maybe giving rank and file party members a bigger role in picking candidates might help. I have never liked the system of basically allowing party bosses to pretty much pick the candidates.
 
dudalb said:
Maybe giving rank and file party members a bigger role in picking candidates might help. I have never liked the system of basically allowing party bosses to pretty much pick the candidates.
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From the Australian experience where both methods are in use, it doesn't make much difference. The party bosses tend to pick party hacks, the local branches tend to pick local hacks.
 
This is The End said:
The YT link for anyone who needs it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0zC6c9gZ-is
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Thank you for this link, This is The End (one sees Theresa May showing up at about 43:50 for a statement in this video). She's basically blaming parliament for all the trouble, and she doesn't say a single word of blame about Jean-Claude Juncker, Donald Tusk, Michel Barnier and the other European leaders. I believe this might indicate a certain lack of lucidity on her part.

I have also always found it a little strange that she seems to have become so passionately pro-Brexit after the referendum which, after all, was won by "Leave" with only a tiny majority of not even 52%, even though she personally chose "Remain". Respecting the people's choice is one thing (and this may indeed be important in a democracy). But avoiding possible economic catastrophe, and a lot of trouble of various kinds is another priority that an important leader like her cannot just ignore and forget. She has tried to behave responsibly by agreeing a deal with the EU, which (unfortunately) might potentially break up her country, but she still doesn't seem to realize that this could be a serious problem. It's always the parliament's fault ...
 
One of the indicators of whether someone is for or against Brexit is whether they believe the lie on the bus about 350 million a day. The average number who did believe it was 42% at the time of the referendum, with Leavers twice as likely to believe it as Remainers. Unfortunately for the prospects of a second referendum, the numbers still believing it are pretty much unchanged, at 42%.
 
The French will never forgive the British for Traflagar and Waterloo. Only explanation.
What is interesting is how often France vetoed British membership in the Common Market until pressure from other members sort of forced them to let Britian in.
 
KDLarsen said:
Allegedly Corbyn walked out of the opposition leaders' meeting with the PM, as the Independent Group was represented, and he doesn't consider them to be part of the opposition.
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May was undermining Corbyn when she invited Ummana (sp_?) as he is not the leader of a political party and TIG is not a registered political party.
 
I think May's appeal to the people over the heads of parliament is a really lame attempt to use Trumpian tactics. It is not going to work.
 
dudalb said:
I think Churchill's definition of insanity might come into play: It's doing the exact same thing in the exact same way under the exact same conditions and expect a different result.
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It's Freud's definition of neuroticism. May is certainly neurotic: persisting in behaviours she knows do not work but cannot restrain herself.
 
Vixen said:
May was undermining Corbyn when she invited Ummana (sp_?) as he is not the leader of a political party and TIG is not a registered political party.
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Nice attempt to excuse Corbyn's childish behavior. he damaged himself quite a bit with that stunt. Corbyn does a great job of undeerminng his own credibtility without May getting involved.
 
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