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I'm sorry you are correct. I was going to wait on the second one because I wasn't sure it was the same one. But it looks like I posted that one first. I had to go back and look. My bad.

My point with the second one if it is the same explosion is that it is not loud at all from where it was recorded. In fact if it had occured at the time of the collapse it wouldn't have been heard at all.

If it's not the same explosion as the demolition comparison one then there should be other sources of this one as well. So now all you need to do is find another 10 or 20 recordings that picked it up. Good luck.
Why would I need to do that. I'm not trying to prove that explosives took down the buildings. My idea of what did it can be clearly seen on tape.

So, good luck with YOUR quest.
 
Sorry, based on experience, and knowledge, the sounds of explosives would be recorded on 9/11 and heard by real people. Real people did not hear sounds of explosives used to bring down the WTC. There is enough evidence to prove you could hear blasts if they were present on 9/11. I can clearly hear the blast of the impact, you can not even correct your errors, or hear anything you do not want to.
oops engine and impact sounds

oops engine and impact sounds

You know there are real people who walked around the WTC complex on 9/11 and not one has come to support the few idiots making up lies about 9/11 explosives. Why?

There are plenty of witnesses who heard explosions on 9/11. It's debated what caused those sounds. Were they not real people? Someone implied here before that no one claims there weren't people who heard explosions on 9/11. I offer them you.
 
No, I'm gonna have to say that's a lie. Otherwise, you wouldn't be so fervent and angry about this.

I mean, if you opinion on the WTC collapse really is "I don't know what caused it", why do you show so much more animosity to the debunker side than to the truther side? And why do you invest so much time and energy into debunking a video that you believe proves nothing?

Let me ask you this: when was the last time you offered any critique of the controlled demolitions theory?


You know, I asked LC a similar question before. I don't think he/she ever answered. But maybe I am wrong.
 
There are plenty of witnesses who heard explosions on 9/11. It's debated what caused those sounds. Were they not real people? Someone implied here before that no one claims there weren't people who heard explosions on 9/11. I offer them you.

And how many of those people are twoofers? How many claim they heard demolition charges?

You're not making baseless assumptions of their behalf, are you?
 
There are plenty of witnesses who heard explosions on 9/11. It's debated what caused those sounds. Were they not real people? Someone implied here before that no one claims there weren't people who heard explosions on 9/11. I offer them you.

Names and exact, uncut quotes. Now.
 
Why would I need to do that. I'm not trying to prove that explosives took down the buildings. My idea of what did it can be clearly seen on tape.

So, good luck with YOUR quest.

I'm not trying to prove explosives took down the towers either. I don't even know if there were any explosives. I just know that Gravy's video doesn't prove anything either way. I've provided an explosion that happened on 9/11. I don't contend it was an explosive device. I don't know. But I do know it was as loud as one. So using Gravy's own standard of truth I asked where is all the audio of this explosive sound that is just as loud and clear as the one used in the demolition charge comparison?

No one can seem to find any. Does it prove something?
 
There are plenty of witnesses who heard explosions on 9/11. It's debated what caused those sounds. Were they not real people? Someone implied here before that no one claims there weren't people who heard explosions on 9/11. I offer them you.

Nine pages into this thread, let's summarize:

You have zero technical knowledge about audio.

You admit that explosives would be set off to cause a building to collapse and would not be heard during the collapse.

The video you presented contained a fake explosion dubbed in by dishonest twoofers (pardon the redundancy).

Um, shouldn't you be visiting your studio, conferring with the instructors at your flight school, polishing the chrome on your fleet of cars, or doing your homework?
 
There are plenty of witnesses who heard explosions on 9/11. It's debated what caused those sounds.


Actually it's also debatable that they were explosions. The only thing that is known is that they heard a loud noise.

-Gumboot
 
I'm not trying to prove explosives took down the towers either. I don't even know if there were any explosives. I just know that Gravy's video doesn't prove anything either way. I've provided an explosion that happened on 9/11. I don't contend it was an explosive device. I don't know.

Twoofer rule #865: when cornered JAQ-off!

Pathetic.
 
Just what, exactly, are you claiming, LC. Please lay it out for us. Just a concise paragraph or two, so no one gets confused as to what you are debating. Thank you.



If you don't mind, LC. I am getting confused with this thread, and would appreciate clarification. Thank you.
 
Nine pages into this thread, let's summarize:

You have zero technical knowledge about audio.

You admit that explosives would be set off to cause a building to collapse and would not be heard during the collapse.

The video you presented contained a fake explosion dubbed in by dishonest twoofers (pardon the redundancy).

Um, shouldn't you be visiting your studio, conferring with the instructors at your flight school, polishing the chrome on your fleet of cars, or doing your homework?

And you still fail. What's the matter? Is Gravy's standard of truth impossible to meet?
 
What I'm saying is I don't know what was used in Gravy's comparison video. Do you? If this was what was used how do you know explosions inside the tower would be picked up over the collapse of the building?


It's irrelevant what kind of microphone was used. The explosions would be louder than the collapse, ergo if the microphone picks up the collapse it must also pick up the explosions.

Mixer recording levels can be adjusted to not pick up quieter sounds, but they cannot be adjusted to not pick up louder sounds.

This is incredibly simple. It's unfathomable that you cannot grasp it.

-Gumboot
 
I'm not trying to prove explosives took down the towers either. I don't even know if there were any explosives. I just know that Gravy's video doesn't prove anything either way. I've provided an explosion that happened on 9/11. I don't contend it was an explosive device. I don't know. But I do know it was as loud as one. So using Gravy's own standard of truth I asked where is all the audio of this explosive sound that is just as loud and clear as the one used in the demolition charge comparison?

No one can seem to find any. Does it prove something?
Yes, there was not that many explosion sounds. So we can rule out the conventional kind of CD that a lot of "truthers" support. What makes you think Gravy's video was targeting you? There are more "truthers" that parrot the lots of explosives line.
 
Well I'll give you debunkers a couple days to find other audio that picked up the very loud explosive sound I provided you with. Remember just as loud and just as clear as to be heard over the collapse of a falling skyscraper. I think thats fair. Remember this is the debunker standard of truth not mine.

If you don't I will have no choice but to declare Gravy's video debunked by his own standard in a new thread. Don't bother with any of your other nonsense it won't be responded to. You have your homework assignment and your hero debunker leader is counting on you. He made his bed and will have to sleep in it if you don't come through. Hurry your movement depends on you. Now I have to go and make a movement of my own if you know what I mean. LOL

Later fools
 
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And you still fail. What's the matter? Is Gravy's standard of truth impossible to meet?


Hey, kid, experts have explained your errors to you and you jump up and down, red-faced, tears streaming, screeching that they failed at something. Guess what? You're too stupid to worry about--another ineducable fool peddling nonsense. Your video was bogus. Your goose has been cooked.
 
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Well I'll give you debunkers a couple days to find other audio that picked up the very loud explosive sound I provided you with.

First, YOU have to confirm the details of the video, otherwise there's absolutely no way we'll be able to find even another video of the same event, let alone a video with similar audio.

1) When was it taken? (be more specific than "9/11")
2) Where was it taken? (be more specific than "New York")

And I can't take your word for it, I need confirmation from the video's owner.

It's not that I don't trust the authenticity of your video (I don't anyway, but that's not the point). It's that even if you were wrong (for the sake of argument), it would be impossible for me to meet your challenge without those details because I have no idea what event is being recorded, where or at what time, or even if there are any other videos of the event existing anywhere.
 
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Is this and other accounts like it not old news?

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/911_firefighters.html

Now when are you going to get what I asked for? Now?


Okay, we've exposed your dishonesty regarding the firefighters. They despise you creeps.

You asked for more videos with fake explosions dubbed in by other liars. Sorry, you've shown that you can find them all by your lonesome.

Now, you find a video in which people actually react to the sound of an explosion.
 

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