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Boycott Israel

Virus said:
Are you using an Intel processor? Intel has R&D facilities in Israel.

Do you use Google? They use search algorithms invented in Israel.

Do you use Microsoft products? They have R&D facilities in Israel.

Do you use Motorola products? They have labs in Israel.

Do you use anything by IBM? Labs in Israel.

Applied Materials? BMC? Creo? Marvell? Cisco? HP? and Nestlé?

I bet you a hundred bucks you are using something from these companies.
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The downside of all this is that the 'business sword' can cut both ways. The law is against a basic freedom of speech, and casts all these companies in a bad light. Guess what? Companies don't like to look stupid. They do have influence on the government of Israel, maybe lots of influence. I'd bet there are meetings going on right now in Intel and Motorola about how to position their company as being against this law.

Israel may find that if they want to keep these top companies, they may need to lighten up a little on the fascism.
 
Sword_Of_Truth said:
In fairness though, there are several people who post here at JREF that really do hate jews. They would no doubt find your list of jewish owned companies useful (assuming they don't already have them memorized).
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Well, I don't hate Jews and I don't think that the others posting in thread do either.

I do hate the way that the state of Israel (i.e. the government of Israel and the people that support it) have been behaving.

That you can't separate the two is your problem, not mine.

That someone else may actually hate Jews is irrelevant.

And no, I didn't follow your link. I rarely do, and never in posts such as yours.
 
Kopji said:
The downside of all this is that the 'business sword' can cut both ways. The law is against a basic freedom of speech, and casts all these companies in a bad light. Guess what? Companies don't like to look stupid. They do have influence on the government of Israel, maybe lots of influence. I'd bet there are meetings going on right now in Intel and Motorola about how to position their company as being against this law.

Israel may find that if they want to keep these top companies, they may need to lighten up a little on the fascism.
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This.
 
Sword_Of_Truth said:
I could get snarky here, but you did admit that when you accused me of racism that you were full of crap.

In fairness though, there are several people who post here at JREF that really do hate jews. They would no doubt find your list of jewish owned companies useful (assuming they don't already have them memorized).
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interesting after inplying antisemitism when boycoting israel, you were not able to quote someone from this topic about antisemitism, you had to link to a totaly non connected topic, hollocaust denial.

nice try kid, you fail :rolleyes:
 
http://www.abc.net.au/unleashed/2796096.html

Israel has gone down a different path. It has just passed a law banning certain calls for boycotts, by 47 to 38. As noted in Ha'aretz, "A person or an organisation calling for the boycott of Israel, including the settlements, can be sued by the boycott's targets without having to prove that they sustained damage. ... The second part of the law says a person or a company that declare a boycott of Israel or the settlements will not be able to bid in government tenders."
Many Israelis are appalled by the measure. One does not have to support a boycott of Israel or the settlements to believe such opinions should be allowed un-penalised expression. The dovish Meretz called the law "an embarrassment to Israeli democracy and makes people around the world wonder if there is actually a democracy here". Kadima (the party founded by Ariel Sharon) complained that "you're sending people to the gulag for their opinions".
Gal Beckerman, writing for American Jewish paper Forward, described this as an "an odious law for the ways in which it chills free speech in Israel", noting that "democracy's greatest test is its ability to allow the harshest criticism, whether the flag burners or the boycotters". She singled out for criticism its conflation of Israel with the settlements, complaining that this "will effectively codify an equation that has been the mantra of the Israeli right-wing and the settler movement: Any criticism of the occupation is an existential attack on Israel as a whole".
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Does Gal read the threads here?
 
Complexity said:
I just learned that the Israeli government passed a law last night that makes calling for a boycott against an Israeli company by anyone in Israel or in a region controlled by Israel actionable by lawsuit.

For example, if a Palestinian X calls for a boycott of Israeli company Y in an illegal Israeli settlement, company Y may sue Palestinian X.

This new law is being protested, of course.

I urge a boycott of all goods and services produced by all Israeli companies.

And further US financial support for Israel?

Not another bloody cent.
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No. I bought an uzi and I love it.
 
So does this mean I shouldn't buy bagels? That would make me sad :(
 
Bankrupt the Jewish state. Soften it up for the Jihad.

Is that the goal?
 
Virus said:
Bankrupt the Jewish state. Soften it up for the Jihad.

Is that the goal?
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so you agree with the law? you dont care for freedom of speech in Israel?

if the law is really implemented, i will indeed consider a boycot, they give a good reason to me.
 
Virus said:
Bankrupt the Jewish state. Soften it up for the Jihad.

Is that the goal?
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How long Israel (or any other state) survives is of little concern to me. No state will last for long - none has, and I don't think none ever will.

What concerns me is what each one does while it is here.

Israel is behaving badly.

I don't give a damn about Islam except that I wish it would wither up and blow away.

If the consequences of Israel's misbehavior catch up with it someday, so it goes.

In the meantime, I wish Israel would treat people with dignity and justice.
 
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Saying "whether Israel survives or not is no concern of mine because all states eventually are destroyed" is like saying "whether you live or die is of no concern of mine because all men are mortal".

Not only should the logical mistake be obvious, but, quite apart from that, anybody who couldn't care less about whether Israel survives or not is hardly in a position to give it moral lessons, whatever the worth of the moral lesson itself -- much like Al Gore is more or less the worst possible crusader to stop conspicuous consumption so as to slow down global warming, with his private jet and multiple mansions, whatever the truth of his views.
 
It is a stupid law because it limits freedom of speech. It should be repealed, and quickly. The best reaction I have heard about this law is from a right-wing Israeli who said that he will boycott settlement products -- UNTIL this law is repealed. Then he will continue to buy them.
 
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