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Merged Boston Marathon CTs

I just heard a nurse interviewed on WBUR. She said at the time of the explosion, she had been treating a war vet who had run the marathon in full gear and apparently, this is a common occurrence.

So, two responders in fatigues is really unremarkable, apparently.
 
This post has me puzzled for a couple of reasons. First, the poster claims to have been watching the marathon live. Was anyone actually broadcasting live coverage of the marathon so late? This was long after the winners had won.

Second, and this is more speculative, but if I were watching the live marathon and there were a sudden explosion, I'm sure I wouldn't have the wherewithal to notice who was running to the scene first. I suppose, however, in this day of PVRs when we can rewind live video, this is easily explained. But has anyone actually seen a video showing that first-responders included military personnel? And would that be terribly surprising, or were uniformed national guardsmen on hand at the site?

actually i saw 2 military cloths wearing guys helping pull away the fence.
 
He can't see the explosions from that vantage... that's glaringly obvious. Most likely someone going to the front edge to see what the explosions were.

I worked in Copley for almost 18 years. This is only the 2nd Marathon in 20 years that I didn't watch from the roof of the hotel where I worked. All the roofs were typically crowded with onlookers. (although those numbers decreased by the 4 hr. mark)

Still sickened by these events. I had several family members at the finish line - who left 45 mins prior to the attack.
 
Who needs the government to tell me that conspiracy theorists are despicable. Just look at them at times like this.

Here is a common problem:

  • CTer makes claim about an event like the Boston marathon being a conspiracy
  • Therefore CTer lacks sympathy for victims
The problem is that in their world, sounding the alarm on the conspiracy is the BEST way to show sympathy for the victims, cause they're the ONLY ones able to see why they died and the ONLY ones fighting to stop future false-flags like this from taking any more lives.

I don't think we need to impute an evil motive to them - we should recall that they all have a system of rationalizations that have them speaking the way they do. I think nearly all CTers will have some measure of appropriate sympathy for the dead, its just their way of expressing it comes in the zany theories we all know and despise.

And heck, you're not the only one to slip into this so please understand I used that one post to make this general comment - and I think it's important because the major weakness in CT theory is to impute evil motives to leadership and imagine them as some of the lowest, most selfish, most ruthless people you could ever imagine. They overlook the rationalizations that have people like Bush and Cheney planning wars that have legitimately evil outcomes and don't realize that they are not even able to see the evil -> given the rationalizations they have internalized that make adventures in the Middle East look like just the ticket!

We make the same mistake because the CTers we imagine to be so callous don't thinking of themselves that way, and in their minds, they're doing exactly what any reasonable person would be doing once they had their eyes opened to the NWO.
 
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Those familiar with 9/11 conspiracy theories probably remember the infamous Dominic DiMaggio of "United 93 flew over Shanksville" fame. Here is his take on the Boston Marathon attacks:

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=eef_1366118325

It took him all of 2 and a half minutes to implicate the US government.

Video may contain graphic images, I could only stomach the first 5 minutes so I'm not sure.
 
It took him all of 2 and a half minutes to implicate the US government.

For how quickly they reply, how is it that the conspiracy theorists aren't named as culprits. If they post that quickly after the tragedy, than maybe they knew it was coming?!?!

As far as the "remain calm", I've been searching all over to find out where this came from. The only video I find is the one where the guy is screaming it in the background, during the press conference, and is being ignored by the police. I can't find anything in regards to any pre warning. One site said they might have made mention over the PA system because the dogs were around and people were getting nervous. However, I can't find any real confirmation, most searches end at conspiracy theorist sites.
 
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Here is a common problem:

  • CTer makes claim about an event like the Boston marathon being a conspiracy
  • Therefore CTer lacks sympathy for victims
The problem is that in their world, sounding the alarm on the conspiracy is the BEST way to show sympathy for the victims, cause they're the ONLY ones able to see why they died and the ONLY ones fighting to stop future false-flags like this from taking any more lives.

I don't think we need to impute an evil motive to them - we should recall that they all have a system of rationalizations that have them speaking the way they do. I think nearly all CTers will have some measure of appropriate sympathy for the dead, its just their way of expressing it comes in the zany theories we all know and despise.

And heck, you're not the only one to slip into this so please understand I used that one post to make this general comment - and I think it's important because the major weakness in CT theory is to impute evil motives to leadership and imagine them as some of the lowest, most selfish, most ruthless people you could ever imagine. They overlook the rationalizations that have people like Bush and Cheney planning wars that have legitimately evil outcomes and don't realize that they are not even able to see the evil -> given the rationalizations they have internalized that make adventures in the Middle East look like just the ticket!

We make the same mistake because the CTers we imagine to be so callous don't thinking of themselves that way, and in their minds, they're doing exactly what any reasonable person would be doing once they had their eyes opened to the NWO.

I'll try to remember that the next time CTers tell me they will laugh at our executions, when they take over, for not being believers in their nonsense, or their constant rants that attempt in influence some nutjob into "doing something"... Violence has even happened due to and by CTers... Sorry but that doesn't cut it for me. That may apply to some of them, but not all of them. I've seen all too often, first hand, how bad they can become...
 
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The sewer rats over at September Clueless have already declared the whole thing fake on page 2 of their thread:

http://cluesforum.info/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=1602&start=15



Sick ****ers

I was stunned by the graphic images that were casually discussed and dismissed as fake on that site. Be aware that they post many truly gruesome photos. It's all the more shocking to see how they cavalierly treat the subjects (who they believer are actors, of course).
 
But has anyone actually seen a video showing that first-responders included military personnel? And would that be terribly surprising, or were uniformed national guardsmen on hand at the site?

It's a HUGE crowd event - way too big for the Boston PD to handle alone, and they do have National Guard there (as volunteers, I think, but in uniform) as crowd control.
 
Have you guys seen the 'man on the roof' meme yet? You can see a guy on the roof of a building as the bombs go off...

Someone who is familiar with the area says it's a building that has a roof deck for the residents, a building that is blocked in during the marathon by all the activity ... probably someone looking over the edge to see if it's over yet, and if it's possible to get out of the building.
 
Here is a common problem:

  • CTer makes claim about an event like the Boston marathon being a conspiracy
  • Therefore CTer lacks sympathy for victims
The problem is that in their world, sounding the alarm on the conspiracy is the BEST way to show sympathy for the victims, cause they're the ONLY ones able to see why they died and the ONLY ones fighting to stop future false-flags like this from taking any more lives.

I don't think we need to impute an evil motive to them - we should recall that they all have a system of rationalizations that have them speaking the way they do. I think nearly all CTers will have some measure of appropriate sympathy for the dead, its just their way of expressing it comes in the zany theories we all know and despise.

And heck, you're not the only one to slip into this so please understand I used that one post to make this general comment - and I think it's important because the major weakness in CT theory is to impute evil motives to leadership and imagine them as some of the lowest, most selfish, most ruthless people you could ever imagine. They overlook the rationalizations that have people like Bush and Cheney planning wars that have legitimately evil outcomes and don't realize that they are not even able to see the evil -> given the rationalizations they have internalized that make adventures in the Middle East look like just the ticket!

We make the same mistake because the CTers we imagine to be so callous don't thinking of themselves that way, and in their minds, they're doing exactly what any reasonable person would be doing once they had their eyes opened to the NWO.

There is a substantial proportion of the CT world that doesn't actually believe anyone died, which is how they can justify their vile mockery, and an equally disturbing proportion who believe there are deaths and injuries but think they are a justifiable sacrifice if the sheeple wake up and take over. Those people are a short goose step from Anders Breivik, the Sandy Hook Killer and the Timothy McVeighs of the world.

There are people on eg Icke's forum who are genuinely appalled by these events, there are others who are like circling vultures desperate for more carnage that will justify their insane belief that the lizards are out to get us. The more blood and gore there is, the more it convinces them they are right, so the more they actually want it.
 
I just can't wrap my mind around all these people arguing that the whole thing never happened. Claiming that the government did it is one thing - there's zero evidence to support it, but at least it's not beyond the realms of possibility. But to say that it straight-up didn't happen...my head hurts. I can't fathom these people. Do they not realize that Boston is a real place? With real people? That the marathon is a real event? And again, with real people participating in and watching it?

I'm asking because I don't see any way to reconcile an understanding of this reality with the belief that the bombing was fake. If it didn't happen, then nobody would be able to just pretend that it did without being corrected by the thousands of people who were there. And yet on that clues forum, I see people talking about how all the pictures and videos we've seen have been digitally fabricated, or are set pieces with actors and props. It's just so...like I said, my head hurts.
 
But see? That's exactly the kind of thinking that will leave normal people thinking they are heartless, but on examination, what's there to feel sympathy for when there are actually no legitimate victims?

Platypus - TOTALLY get where you're coming from but I do try to find ways to understand people who believe utterly alien things than me. I stand by my contention that a similar % of CTers will have a similar amount of sympathy for actual death from violence as us skeptics have. It's just they are so far off the reservation it's easy to fill in that gap of understanding with animus - and given the pernicious influence CTers have on society I think it's totally normal that we will sometimes fall prey to imagining the worst possible things about them - its really easy to do that and I have done so myself many times!

Maybe it makes things a bit more "real" to have a sister (who I'm still close with) and a close friend (who I am no longer close with - thanks to all our fights on these matters!) who were sucked down the rabbit hole.

CTers are no longer just names and avatars on message boards for me...
 
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I was stunned by the graphic images that were casually discussed and dismissed as fake on that site. Be aware that they post many truly gruesome photos. It's all the more shocking to see how they cavalierly treat the subjects (who they believer are actors, of course).

Yeah I saw the pictures they posted, after I posted here. The sick, twisted **** the people in that that forum post about them turned my stomach far worse than the graphic images themselves.
:(
 

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