Bloomberg for President?

angrysoba said:
That's it then? Just handwaved away?



Yeah, someone posted a video of Bloomberg saying that he wants to be the kind of person where the buck stops on his desk. To claim that he didn't know what was going on or didn't know what was in this or that report, or how people felt about the policies he implemented as mayor is a textbook example of buck-passing.
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Same answer as above.

Bloomberg can handle himself in a debate. I will be looking closely to see if Klobuchar can rehabilitate her dismal showing on Telemundo.
 
Skeptic Ginger said:
I think Bloomberg's message will be, vote for me, I can stop that ignorant Trump and I'm not sure the others on this stage can.
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That's the same message they all are making. Bloomberg has way too much baggage to be nominated. I do appreciate his plan to spend money attacking Trump no matter who wins though.
 
Bloomberg started campaigning long ago: plenty of NGOs dear to the heart of Democrats have been receiving millions from Bloomberg for years. Many candidates have voiced their support, but only Bloomberg has put his money where is mouth is.
And, of course, many of those elected in 2018 have to thank Bloomberg for his financial support. Bloomberg has amassed a mountain of goodwill that he is spending now.
Realist Democrats and their supporters would much rather have the certain support of Bloomberg's money than the uncertain support of a progressive Agenda that might never pass Congress.

Bloomberg has no qualms about buying support for his schemes from either party.

And do you know who won't have the money to match Bloomberg?
The NRA.

Bloomberg is by far the best chance there is to pass far-reaching gun legislation.

No, from an ideological perspective you absolutely shouldn't vote for Bloomberg.
From a pragmatic POV, you absolutely should.
 
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thaiboxerken said:
Bloomberg has way too much baggage to be nominated.
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So did Trump.

Honestly, if I were American I'd be pretty worried about now. There's a lot about Bloomberg's quest that reminds me of Trump's - including the number of people who are treating it as an impossible joke - and if he does win the nomination and especially if he goes on to win the presidency, then who knows what that will ultimately do to the US political system?
 
Bloomberg in 2012:

Bloomberg called paid sick "a godawful law," & Living wage reminds Bloomberg of Soviet communism; he says he'll stop it in court if he has to.
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https://www.politico.com/states/new-york/albany/story/2012/04/living-wage-reminds-bloomberg-of-soviet-communism-he-says-hell-stop-it-in-court-if-he-has-to-003389

It's pretty wild. The Democratic party has spent the last 4 years rightly chastising the Republican party for selling out all of its core principals in order to enable Trump. Now the party is on the edge of doing the same thing with Bloomberg.

Bloomberg is the only candidate in the race right now that I can say is totally unacceptable as a nominee. If he succeeds, I honestly expect that the Democratic party will fracture, and they will 100% deserve it.
 
SuburbanTurkey said:
Bloomberg in 2012:



https://www.politico.com/states/new-york/albany/story/2012/04/living-wage-reminds-bloomberg-of-soviet-communism-he-says-hell-stop-it-in-court-if-he-has-to-003389

It's pretty wild. The Democratic party has spent the last 4 years rightly chastising the Republican party for selling out all of its core principals in order to enable Trump. Now the party is on the edge of doing the same thing with Bloomberg.

Bloomberg is the only candidate in the race right now that I can say is totally unacceptable as a nominee. If he succeeds, I honestly expect that the Democratic party will fracture, and they will 100% deserve it.
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The powers that be in the Republican party are crapping themselves.

It's between maintaining the status quo, where both sides are funded by billionaires and make policy for the benefit of billionaires or letting Bernie in who's just going to try to break the game and try to arrange for - and this is innovative, I don't know why nobody's thought of this before - Government of the people, by the people, for the people, rather than the current, government of the people, by the super-elite, for the super-elite.

It's a bold strategy, Cotton...
 
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Bloomberg media, owned and controlled by Mike Bloomberg, says that Mike Bloomberg is in a two-man race for nomination.

Absolutely dystopian. If the Democratic party can't rightly reject this cynical billionaire trying to buy the election, it has no future.
 
I think it is clear who DJT wants to run against: Mike Bloomberg

He is mentioning Mike in a lot of tweets, DJT knows this is giving him more coverage than a weekend of ad buys, it also gives Mike coverage in the media, who will cover DJT's tweets.

I think DJT's goal is to ruin the DNC for future terms, this goal is accomplished if Bernie appears to get screwed out of the nomination by big money Mike and the complicit DNC.
 
Drewbot said:
I think it is clear who DJT wants to run against: Mike Bloomberg

He is mentioning Mike in a lot of tweets, DJT knows this is giving him more coverage than a weekend of ad buys, it also gives Mike coverage in the media, who will cover DJT's tweets.

I think DJT's goal is to ruin the DNC for future terms, this goal is accomplished if Bernie appears to get screwed out of the nomination by big money Mike and the complicit DNC.
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Just like Hillary did.
 
Trump doesn't want to run against Bloomberg - he doesn't want to be reminded how poor he is and how much New York despises him.
 
SuburbanTurkey said:
Bloomberg is the only candidate in the race right now that I can say is totally unacceptable as a nominee. If he succeeds, I honestly expect that the Democratic party will fracture, and they will 100% deserve it.
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Trump is a candidate in the race as well. Just sayin'.
The Great Zaganza said:
Trump doesn't want to run against Bloomberg - he doesn't want to be reminded how poor he is and how much New York despises him.
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Right. Trump wants to run against Bernie, because SOCIALISM!!!
 
The Great Zaganza said:
Bloomberg started campaigning long ago: plenty of NGOs dear to the heart of Democrats have been receiving millions from Bloomberg for years. Many candidates have voiced their support, but only Bloomberg has put his money where is mouth is.
And, of course, many of those elected in 2018 have to thank Bloomberg for his financial support. Bloomberg has amassed a mountain of goodwill that he is spending now.
Realist Democrats and their supporters would much rather have the certain support of Bloomberg's money than the uncertain support of a progressive Agenda that might never pass Congress.

Bloomberg has no qualms about buying support for his schemes from either party.

And do you know who won't have the money to match Bloomberg?
The NRA.

Bloomberg is by far the best chance there is to pass far-reaching gun legislation.

No, from an ideological perspective you absolutely shouldn't vote for Bloomberg.
From a pragmatic POV, you absolutely should.
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Maybe that wasn't campaigning so much as supporting the causes he believes in.

It would appear the press (or whoever gives them their stories) aren't being exactly honest. For example the supposed ~40 accusations from women were not accusations about Bloomberg, but rather of his business meaning employees not himself.

Other stuff is being cherry picked.

The worst thing I've heard him say was that government regulations hurt business. That concerns me. ;)

But hearing all the Progressive causes he's supported for years, I will keep an open mind.
 
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The Great Zaganza said:
Trump doesn't want to run against Bloomberg - he doesn't want to be reminded how poor he is and how much New York despises him.
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The idea Trump could easily beat Bloomberg is foolish. Of course he can't. Bloomberg probably has the best chance of beating Trump and Trump knows it.

For every Democrat that will stay home if Sanders is not on the ballot, two Republicans will vote for Bloomberg.
 
Skeptic Ginger said:
The idea Trump could easily beat Bloomberg is foolish. Of course he can't. Bloomberg probably has the best chance of beating Trump and Trump knows it.

For every Democrat that will stay home if Sanders is not on the ballot, two Republicans will vote for Bloomberg.
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Telling Bernie supporters "we don't need you" seems like a hell of a gamble. Safer bet is just to back Sanders!
 
SuburbanTurkey said:
Telling Bernie supporters "we don't need you" seems like a hell of a gamble. Safer bet is just to back Sanders!
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Safer for who?

There's a lot of denial still that the socialism fear mongering will be a big deal. I think it could get Trump reelected.

Though I will admit there are more positive stories about it lately.
 
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Belz... said:
Sanders supporters. Vote with us or lose to Trump again.
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A part of me almost homes that Sanders wins the Democratic nomination but loses to Trump in the general election, just so all the BernieBros might see that No, going extreme isn't always the best option for winning an election.
I don't know why they expect loyalty from other members of the party but won't give that loyalty back.
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Yeah, some of the BernieBros do seem to be a bit... hypocritcal.
 
SuburbanTurkey said:
Telling Bernie supporters "we don't need you" seems like a hell of a gamble. Safer bet is just to back Sanders!
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I'm not even a Sanders supporter, and given Bloomberg's record as mayor, there's no chance I'd vote for him. In, fact, I'll amend it to "vote blue no matter who, except Bloomberg".

Want to change this? You can't. That's up to him, and thus far he's done nothing at all to move me from this position, while even more damaging info comes out about him. He needs to explain how he changed in the past 5 years from "It's good to send cops out to beat up protestors, spy on muslims, or have people beaten up and possibly sexually assaulted in their own neighborhoods for being black or brown." to "I will protect the rights of all Americans and immigrants and move the US into the future.", and so far all I've heard is "Oopsie doopsie."
 
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