Bloomberg for President?

Skeptic Ginger said:
Hopefully the Bernie Bros that are that stupid are a tiny fringe.

If Bloomberg wins the nomination, his campaign so far, is the one that has the best chance of winning against Trump. Not just the fact he can throw a billion dollars down, but he knows what he's doing, something you can't say for most Democratic candidates. I wish Steyer had the political smarts Bloomberg has. If he did, we'd have a Progressive candidate that would almost certainly win against Trump.

Bloomberg's ads are effective. That's why he has shot up in the polls without eating hotdogs in Iowa.

Trump cannot intimidate Bloomberg. Bloomberg, OTOH, can make and is making Trump look like the jerk that he is.
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I suspect that Bloomberg is a paper tiger. Polling is one thing, actual voters are another. It's practically a guarantee that he is going to get hammered for all his Republican policies in the next debate.
 
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Skeptic Ginger said:
It's so ironic that Trump went to such stupidity to neutralize Biden when really, all he had to do was publicize a couple of Hunter's jobs to make Biden look bad. Probably Trump's obsession with proving the Russian interference didn't happen (because Trump is obsessed with pretending he won the election without the Russians) led him to take such a stupid action.

Trump acting on his conspiracy theories is dangerous. In this case it was dangerous to him instead of to anyone else. Maybe if he wasn't bent on proving the nonsense that it was Ukraine that interfered and they did so to help Clinton, not him, someone could have convinced Trump he didn't need his 'perfect' call and what went with it. But it appears Trump was manipulated by Putin to pursue the Ukraine CT.
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Basically Trump in a nut shell. Its like the Comey thing. If he had fired Comey on day one, nobody would have cared, some Dems would even have applauded. Instead, Trump waits long enough for it to really suspicious as to why he fired Comey, then does an interview where in he basically said, I fired comey because he wouldn't stop the Russia investigation. WTF?
 
Interesting thread on how Bloomberg throws his obscene amounts of money around:

https://twitter.com/blakezeff/status/1227976156936171520

Blake Zeff said:
The degree to which Michael Bloomberg is using his fortune to fundamentally alter & manipulate U.S. politics to his personal advantage extends way beyond ads. I've worked against him, covered him as a journalist & worked with his top aides. Here’s their playbook: (1/17)
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Current Affairs: A Republican Plutocrat Tries To Buy The Democratic Nomination

https://www.currentaffairs.org/2020/02/a-republican-plutocrat-tries-to-buy-the-democratic-nomination

Bloomberg is trying to market himself as some kind of antidote to Trump. His entire history is as one of his peers and shares many of the same vices that are hated in Trump.

He's an authoritarian, perfectly comfortable siccing the NYPD on blacks, hispanics, and Muslims in the city in obvious defiance of civil rights.

He's a sexist, with at least 17 lawsuits from women who suffered sexual harassment or discrimination from him or at his companies. There are tons of very damning misogynistic clips to choose from. It is widely believed that there are more such stories, but Bloomberg, like many rich people, has bought silence with NDA's.

He holds the concerns of poor and working class people is absolute contempt and regularly defends the interests of the ultra-wealthy.

Bloomberg is just a more polite, more polished version of Trump. He is unacceptable as the Democratic nominee.
 
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At this point, I'm reminded of Bill HIcks:

“I'll show you politics in America. Here it is, right here. 'I think the puppet on the right shares my beliefs.' 'I think the puppet on the left is more to my liking.' 'Hey, wait a minute, there's one guy holding out both puppets!'”

It's not Trump v Bernie
It's not the Republicans v Democrats.

It's corporate owned America vs anyone who doesn't want that.

Essentially, at this stage there's Bernie on one side and the whole of the media, his own party, and the opposition on the other.

Bernie in the White house won't be too much trouble, his own party, funded as they are by billionaires, will oppose him, the opposition will oppose him. It will make it more difficult to sell the political charade as something actually meaningful though.
 
SuburbanTurkey said:
He holds the concerns of poor and working class people is absolute contempt and regularly defends the interests of the ultra-wealthy.
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More accurate to say he holds working class people in contempt and thinks he know better about what should be their concerns than they do.

Other than that, he is a super rich authoritarian, even more on both scores than Trump. You won't find Trump trying to micromanage the lives of citizens the Bloomberg seems interested in.
 
SuburbanTurkey said:
Current Affairs: A Republican Plutocrat Tries To Buy The Democratic Nomination

He's a sexist, with at least 17 lawsuits from women who suffered sexual harassment or discrimination from him or at his companies.
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I agree with you that Bloomberg is an authoritarian. However, you might want to think about how many companies and employees Bloomberg has, over how many years, and whether "17" is a high or low number based on what happens at other large organizations. To me, that sounds low.
 
3point14 said:
At this point, I'm reminded of Bill HIcks:

“I'll show you politics in America. Here it is, right here. 'I think the puppet on the right shares my beliefs.' 'I think the puppet on the left is more to my liking.' 'Hey, wait a minute, there's one guy holding out both puppets!'”

It's not Trump v Bernie
It's not the Republicans v Democrats.

It's corporate owned America vs anyone who doesn't want that.

Essentially, at this stage there's Bernie on one side and the whole of the media, his own party, and the opposition on the other.

Bernie in the White house won't be too much trouble, his own party, funded as they are by billionaires, will oppose him, the opposition will oppose him. It will make it more difficult to sell the political charade as something actually meaningful though.
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Ah yes the "All I learned from politics I learned from South Park" argument.

Yeah I saw the Giant Turd and Big Douche episode too. It was funny. It had some valid points. It wasn't completely true and the entire picture.
 
Oh yeah were have I heard "It doesn't matter because the entire system is rotten, at least our guy is different and shaking it up" mentality from before?

Where do I still hear it from constantly?

Hmmmm... I can't remember.
 
If I were one of these left-wing accelerationists, I'd be hoping for Bloomberg to win the nom.

Having the entirety of the US political system reduced down to two plutocrats trying to buy the presidency is 100% high-test radicalization fuel.

This isn't "only Bernie can fix this". This is "Bloomberg is uniquely unfit to meet the needs of the moment".

Buttigieg, Amy, or Biden can't hold a candle to Bloomberg. He's a monster.
 
Other than the primary he's running in, literally everything I've heard about Bloomberg this campaign makes him sound like a Republican. Am I missing something?
 
SuburbanTurkey said:
If I were one of these left-wing accelerationists, I'd be hoping for Bloomberg to win the nom.

Having the entirety of the US political system reduced down to two plutocrats trying to buy the presidency is 100% high-test radicalization fuel.

This isn't "only Bernie can fix this". This is "Bloomberg is uniquely unfit to meet the needs of the moment".

Buttigieg, Amy, or Biden can't hold a candle to Bloomberg. He's a monster.
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Showing you guys want to be confrontation, and not add to the National Dialogue. You want to force your way. Hardly productive
 
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