Bjarne on: Dark Energy, only an illusion.

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Wrong. The south (and north) magnetic poles are in fact right where they are expected to be and they are doing what they are expected to do. Stop making up pseudo-facts.
Crap..

The spots host closed magnetic loops so that the solar plasma travels along the loop; first it goes up and then it comes down. the solar wind is known to emanate from "coronal holes", which are places where there are no sunspots. In those regions the solar magnetic field is disordered and chaotic, with "tiny" (on the scale of the sun) exposed areas of both polarities. So the solar wind does not flow from a region of preferred polarity, but rather a region of chaotic & mixed polarity. Only in the case of a flare or coronal mass ejection, where the aforementioned loops break, does a plasma wind flow from a sunspot area. it is not the normal solar wind, and there is no polarity preference here either, as the loop that breaks connects a magnetic south pole on one end and a magnetic north pole on the other.
Both solar wind and “loops” / spicules mass are created due to motion of matter. Chaotic or not doesn’t matter.

In fact, we know the physical process, and we know a lot about it. We don't know literally everything, but so what about that? We know enough about the dynamo process, and magnetic field generation for both Earth & the sun….
My friend try to understand we have no theory, or even a thesis, after it become clear that we even don’t know where the Suns MSP is. OK ?
By relying on press releases instead of real science,.....
So either Richard Marsden, ESA's project scientist or the journalist must have been drunk ?
 
My friend try to understand we have no theory, or even a thesis, after it become clear that we even don’t know where the Suns MSP is. OK ?
THEN YOU CAN NOT EVEN SAY THERE IS ANY MSP. OK

Paul

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I will descend to the childish level of your discussion: Crap...

Both solar wind and “loops” / spicules mass are created due to motion of matter. Chaotic or not doesn’t matter.
Gibberish that has nothing to do with the post

My friend try to understand we have no theory, or even a thesis, after it become clear that we even don’t know where the Suns MSP is. OK ?
Ignorance from Bjarne - we do know where the Sun's MSP is. OK?
You have no theory, or even a thesis.
We (meaning anyone who is willing to understand what they read) have dynamo theory.

So either Richard Marsden, ESA's project scientist or the journalist must have been drunk ?
Luckily you are not in the UK or this bit of libel would cost you money.

Your inability to understand what they wrote does not give you the right to insult them.
Your rather silly reliance on news articles for your science does not give you the right to insult them.

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Actually, why are we discussing the Sun's south pole location in a thread about dark energy?
 
Actually, why are we discussing the Sun's south pole location in a thread about dark energy?
Maybe, and that is a BIG "Maybe", he sees that he has lost on that argument because it is a lost cause.

Paul

:) :) :)
 
Actually, why are we discussing the Sun's south pole location in a thread about dark energy?
Maybe because the only coherent part of Bjarne's OP was the term "dark energy". The rest was gibberish except his delusion that the universe does not expand eveywhere. It is just that it is overwelmed by gravity locally and so we do not detect it except between galaxies.

Since then his understanding of what the term "dark energy" means has have been shown to be pitiful. Thus there is no point in talking about what Bjarne did and still does not understand.

But ... then we are still talking about what Bjarne still does not understand - solar physics :jaw-dropp !
 
THEN YOU CAN NOT EVEN SAY THERE IS ANY MSP. OK
According to the prevailing understanding there is none.
According to my understanding there are "plenty".
But I am not sure you’ll get the point anyway.

Ignorance from Bjarne - we do know where the Sun's MSP is. OK?
Really ? Tell me about it ?

We (meaning anyone who is willing to understand what they read) have dynamo theory.
Ohh yeehh
A dead one.
One without MSP, - With mean one that doesn’t work.

Luckily you are not in the UK or this bit of libel would cost you money.
It is not libel but irony.
But I expected you would get that point either.

Actually, why are we discussing the Sun's south pole location in a thread about dark energy?
Dark energy = stretching space.
Magnetism = Space in motion.
These 2 phenomena’s are not so far from each other.
 
Really ? Tell me about it ?
Well - currently the Sun's MSp is at teh south pole.

Really
Ohh yeehh
A dead one.
One without MSP, - With mean one that doesn’t work.
Really
Ohh yeehh
A live one.
One without MSP, - With mean one that works.

It is not libel but irony.
But I expected you would get that point either.
Wrong. Calling someone drunk in print as you did is libel not irony.
But I expect you would get that point either.

Dark energy = stretching space.
Magnetism = Space in motion.
These 2 phenomena’s are not so far from each other.
Ignorance yet again.
Dark energy = change in rate of expansion of spacetime.
Magnetistm = magnetism (or movbing electric charge).
These 2 phenomena’s are totally different from each other.



 
Wrong. Calling someone drunk in print as you did is libel not irony.
Crap
To be drunk can never be libel. It's normal and something we all sometimes are.
Dark energy = change in rate of expansion of spacetime.
Magnetistm = magnetism (or movbing electric charge).
These 2 phenomena’s are totally different from each other.
Amen
(How much have you been drinking today ?)
 
Crap
To be drunk can never be libel. It's normal and something we all sometimes are.
Crap.
To accuse sompne of being drunk while doing their work as you did is libel.
So either Richard Marsden, ESA's project scientist or the journalist must have been drunk ?

Amen
(How much have you been drinking today ?)
Hallelujah
(How much have you been drinking today ?)

See how easy it is to be as childish as you :jaw-dropp !

Your ignorance is obvious:
  1. Dark energy = change in rate of expansion of spacetime.
  2. Magnetistm = magnetism (or moving electric charge).
  3. Thus these 2 phenomena’s are totally different from each other.
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More technically (I know you will not understand this Bjarne so continue to ignore this like you have ignored all physics and mathematics):
The basic property that dark energy needs to have in order to produce the effects that are measured is that it has negative pressure. Magnetic fields can only have positive pressure. Thus magnetic fields are nothing to do with dark energy.

Bjarne has some sort of delusion that they are caused by space stretching/moving/spindling/dancing the fandango in his head. This is so obviously wrong. Dark energy is the cause of more rapid "stretching of space". So he has it the wrong way around and is 100% wrong.
 
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Speaking of childishness,how old is Bjarne? I would guess around 14.
Bjarne has enough money to hire someone to do a futile* set of measurements of the gravity inside a building. This I expect him to be an adult despite the childishness of his replies.

* futile because he never actually gave any predictions for the actual measurements taken. And when they were taken they disproved his idea in that they measured a variation of the force of gravity with height :jaw-dropp !
 
Correction


I am
  • Speculating
  • Predicting
  • Measuring
  • Proving.

So far you have only made uselss measurements, and you have not proved a single thing, so......:rolleyes:

I have a coherent a logical thesis, that fits to, and can explain all objective observation, - regarding several unexplained mysteries, - magnetic phenomena’s, in cosmos.

As people have been pointing out (and which you have ignored), your thesis is neither logical nor coherent. Your math makes no sense, and you don't understand the obvious consequences of your own ideas.

You have accuse me for speculation, but you have no better answer you self, of any of the mysteries that surrounds us. (except completely incoherent speculation)

Yes, I have. Current science has observations and coherent theories to support its position. You problem is that you don't understand even the simplest concepts.

Try for example try to tell me :What do you believe is the underlying cause of magnetism?
Charges in motion.

Or tell me how do you believe matter and space in connected?

Gravity.

Or how do you believe a grain of sand can affect the whole universe?
Gravity.

where do you believe photon frequencies “disappears” over time

They don't.

Or where do you believe photons energy disappears over time?

It doesn't.

Or where do you believe the Suns MSP hide it self?

It doesn't. It is right where the force lines end.

Or when so you believe the next ice age will start ?

I don't know. Neither do you.

Or why do you believe; it requires more and more energy to get a diminishing increase in speed. (Please do not repeat the empty superficial word “Inertia”)

E=MC2.

You cannot reject my thought unless proving I am wrong.

False. I can reject your thoughts till such time as YOU prove them right.

Hans
 
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In electronics, there are three main properties that are used, Resistance, Capacitance, and Inductance. Inductance is magnetism, which is made by Moving Electrons, which are Charged Particles. If we didn’t know what made magnetism, electronics would not work. We wouldn’t be having this talk on the internet.

Paul

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So far you have only made uselss measurements, and you have not proved a single thing, so......:rolleyes:

As people have been pointing out (and which you have ignored), your thesis is neither logical nor coherent. Your math makes no sense, and you don't understand the obvious consequences of your own ideas.

Yes, I have. Current science has observations and coherent theories to support its position. You problem is that you don't understand even the simplest concepts.

Charges in motion.

Gravity.

Gravity.

They don't.

It doesn't.

It doesn't. It is right where the force lines end.

I don't know. Neither do you.

E=MC2.

False. I can reject your thoughts till such time as YOU prove them right.

Hans

Exactly so superficial (from A to Z) as expected.
And like if I would say the cow gives milk because it eat grass, and the car can drive because it is gasoline in the tank, and women blab la too much because they have a mouth.

To accuse sompne of being drunk while doing their work as you did is libel.

Completely crap.

First at all you cannot take my words out of its context.

And the context is: that you denied that the Sun MSP is not found where we expected it to be, - and we don't know why. or where it really is.

If this really “should be true” (notice the context) - then people that seems to know better, and that have reason for claiming the opposite, - must either be joking, lying, drunk or stupid etc..

OR those that claim that we know where the MSP is, must be joking, lying, drunk or stupid etc..

This is not libel, but a matter of simple logic / contradiction / fact.

Simply because not both can be true.

The truth is NEVER libel.

The MSP cannot both be where we expect it to be, and not be where we expect it to be. – Simple cow logic.

But first at all, - I did not accuse, - but assumed the one or the other person to be drunk, based on: if your information is true, - (which I do not believe) .

Secondly to be libel, it must be either illegal or humiliating.

It is for example humiliating to compare people with animals (except off course cows, - because of cows have higher IQ than us) and it is humiliating to accused people from illegal actions. (It is not illegal to be drunk).
But If I accused someone for being drunk and driving a car, - this would be a different story.

To be drunk or to suspect someone to be drunk can never be libel.

Thirdly if there were good reasons to suspect a man for example driving a car, -drunk, - it would not be not be libel, because the way the man had behaved before driving the car could give me the right to suspect him for something even if it was illegal, and even if it was not true. – Without that this is libel either.

Have you ever heard about: the freedom of speech? ?
Difference opinions are legal to any time.
You can even in public suspect a man for being a murder, - even though it is not true. IF YOU HAVE GOOD REASON TO BELIVE SO.

I can also accuse anyone for whatever, - so long it is true.

RC
You understanding of Jury are exactly so poor as your ability to judge the thesis I represent.

Don’t even try to teach me jury, - you could very easy demonstrate how incompetent you really are in that field (too) and make a big fool out of yourself.

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Exactly so superficial (from A to Z) as expected.
And like if I would say the cow gives milk because it eat grass, and the car can drive because it is gasoline in the tank, and women blab la too much because they have a mouth.



Completely crap.

First at all you cannot take my words out of its context.

*yada, yada *
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So far, Bjarne, I leave it to you to make a fool of yourself. In that particular discipline, I suspect you are peerless.

Hans
 
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