Bjarne on: Dark Energy, only an illusion.

[Reality Check]

Are you lying about your equation uniting gravity and the string force,Bjarne

So why did you then not used Santé Claus as analogy instead ?

Because the rubber sheet analogy is a standard analogy for a gravitational field.

Now we seperate the word
1.) time =dialation
2.) space = ?
WHAT happens with space in spacetime ?
Help me I can not IMAGING curved space.

Now you spout gibberish.
Space time cannot be separated. It is one thing.
In some cases you can approximate a theory in space time as reducing to a theory in space + time, e.g. General Relativity reduces to Newtonian gravity in the weak field approximation.
In most cases the space and time components of space-time are mixed up.

And display your ignorance for the world to see:
1) time is a coordinate that measures the separation of events in time.
2) space is a set of coordinates that measures the separation of events in space.

I know that you are so lacking in imagination that you cannot imagine curved space-time. Luckily there is a concise mathematical description of space time and its curvature. Unluckily you do not have the ability to understand that.

Bjarne, show us "the equation hat unite gravity and the strong force"

Don't worry about my understanding the mathematics. I know much more mathematics than a someone who is ignorant enough to think that:
Does Bjarne know basic physics (unit-less quantities cannot be arbitrarily assigned units)
First asked 23 October 2009
So far the answer is no !

 

[Bjarne]

You are wrong as usual.
It is an analogy. The curving of spacetime is like the curving of a rubber sheet.

So why did you then not used Santé Claus as analogy instead ?
Or just wrote ; møøøø

• The rubber sheet - shows the stretching property of rubber
• The curvature of space is the stretching property of space

The analogy is perfect.

So simple is that, the analogy is not only a stupid analogy, it is a language that appeals to your imagination.
The problem only seems to be that sometime imagination does not exist.
Hence rubber cannot be converted to space.
Cows does never have such problems

Spacetime

Try to define it
Now we separate the word
1.) time =dilation
2.) space = ?
WHAT happens with space in space-time ?
Help me I can not IMAGINE; WHAT is "curved space".

And WHAT is the opposite > a gravitational wave?
WHAT is it made of
WHERE was it hiding, before it was released??
øøøhhh ....Inside matter ?
Was that "wave" of deformed space absorbed by matter until the BAANGG ??

OR

WHERE

was i hiding until the BAAANNNGG ?

 

[Bjarne]

Space time cannot be separated. It is one thing.

Space is not a "thing"

We have created dark matter and dark energy, only by failing to understand the only property space has, and that is; - a stretching /contracting property.
Imagination has not only flailed, it has been completely swift off.
All you need to do it turn it ON.
Socialize more with cows, children, musicians, artist and right brained creature, and you will one day be able to turn your imagination ON .
That day “the curvature of space” will no longer exist in the real world – but only be an ice cool left brained mathematical expression, - but in fact a dead end if you really want to understand more, or if you want to see a coherent Universe, just there…. right in front of your eyes.
So cow logic simple is that Universe.
So simple is that space.
We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them.
Albert Einstein

 

[Reality Check]

The analogy is perfect.
....snipped some insane gibberish...

The rubber sheet analogy is used to show the curving property of space-time.

The analogy is imperfect as are all analogies.

The rubber sheet analogy is especially imperfect since if you take is seriously then you get gravity varying as 1/r.

The curvature of space-time though shows up clearly as the curvature of the rubber sheet.

 

[Reality Check]

Are you lying about your equation uniting gravity and the string force,Bjarne

Space is not a "thing"

Spacetime is a "thing".

We have created dark matter and dark energy, only by failing to understand the only property space has, and that is; - a stretching /contracting property.

Gibberish: We have observed that the universe acts as if dark matter and dark energy exists.
We understand the prop[erties that spacetime has,
We understand that you are spinning fantasies that are easily seen to be wrong. Your imaginary "stretching /contracting property" cannot cause gravity, dark matter or dark energy:original full list to which more points have been linked

"Bended space is Contracted Space"
Curved space is not contracted space
First pointed out on 11 November 2009
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Bjarne, show us "the equation hat unite gravity and the strong force"
First asked on March 16 2011 (1 day and counting!)

 

[Little 10 Toes]

So why did you then not used Santé Claus as analogy instead ?
Or just wrote ; møøøø

• The rubber sheet - shows the stretching property of rubber
• The curvature of space is the stretching property of space

The analogy is perfect.

No it is not. You are getting space confused with spacetime.

So simple is that, the analogy is not only a stupid analogy, it is a language that appeals to your imagination.
The problem only seems to be that sometime imagination does not exist.
Hence rubber cannot be converted to space.
Cows does never have such problems


Try to define it
Now we separate the word
1.) time =dilation
2.) space = ?
WHAT happens with space in space-time ?
Help me I can not IMAGINE; WHAT is "curved space".

Time is not dilation^WP. Please provide a source where time is defined as dilation.

Using your logic, what does whiteout mean?

 

[Paul]

It is important that it is possible to be able to imaging before you at all can know WHAT you really believe.

No it isn't.

Do you have to imagine 1+1 before you believe it equals 2?

Your lack of imagination, or ability to understand, does not invalidate anything.

If you can imagine what curved space is, then tell us about it ???

For my limited purposes, curved spacetime is a bit like a a rubber sheet.

And try now to tell me what curved space is made of, do you think?

Space and time.

And what is a gravitational wave made of, do you think?

Spacetime.

 

[Paulhoff]

Excuse me, why do we keep feeding this idiot?

Come on, let's press ignore and let him fester in his own imaginary universe.

Hans

Didn't I says that a little while ago.

Paul

 

[MRC_Hans]

Didn't I says that a little while ago.

Paul

Yeah, I know. I actually had him on ignore for a period. But it's like a traffic accident; you don't really wanna look, and you know it makes you feel sick, but you can't help yourself.

Seriously, though, I don't think I've seen someone before so consistently wrong and so busy digging himself deeper in as Bjarne. - And I have seen a few.

Actually, he is even an insult to his cows.

Hans

 

[MRC_Hans]

Imagination has not only flailed, it has been completely swift off.

I think I'll start collecting these.

Well, Bjarne, your imagination IS truely flailing. - around.

Hans

 

[Bjarne]

[/B]
The rubber sheet analogy is used to show the curving property of space-time.

The analogy is imperfect as are all analogies.

The rubber sheet analogy is especially imperfect since if you take is seriously then you get gravity varying as 1/r.

The curvature of space-time though shows up clearly as the curvature of the rubber sheet.

The rubber sheet analogy is perfect

When the acceleration due to gravity decreases by 75 %, the distance square increment will increase inversely proportional by 75 %.

This is no coincidence but rather an expression for cause/effect: The stretching of space contains a domino effect where even a sand grain will influence (stretch) the whole universe.

Acceleration due to gravity is thereby indirectly reflecting how much space is stretching proportionally at a given distance..

Every time you withdraw from the source of a gravitational field with twice the distance (measured from the centre of a gravitational field, e.g. from distance 2 to distance 4 in the illustration above) – the space vacuum will diminish by one half every time. In other words, area A has twice the space vacuum as area B.

This shows us that although our immediate understanding of acceleration due to gravity is based on the assumption that the acceleration will diminish as the function of the distance square (r²), the potential of space-vacuum will diminish as a function of the radius (r) and hence it is no conflict by uniting the distance dilation with the time dilation characterizing the general relativity – the formula is shown below.

If you had read the theory, you criticize you would have know that
http://www.science27.com/english/relativity.html

 

[Bjarne]

Do you have to imagine 1+1 before you believe it equals 2?

Yes you have
“1” could be; visible or invisible or only existing in your fantasy.
In that case the result is not certain, or zero.

Your lack of imagination, or ability to understand, does not invalidate anything.

It could easy invalidate that reality you would believe you just have “proven”.

 

[Bjarne]

Don’t be sissies

If you guys really want me to show how gravity and the strong force can be united don’t forget to answer these questions;

1. What is a gravitational wave made of?
2. Let us say the answer of question 1 is “space”, would a gravitational wave have a certain “amount” of space?
3. What would be the different between "that space" and space that not is a gravitional wave ?
4. Where have a such gravitational waves hide it self?
5. Have it hide it self inside matter?
6. Try the best you can to explain how matter can “hide” - “keep” such gravity wave back (until matter explodes).
7. Is dark energy, really some kind of energy ?

It would be perfect if so many as possible could answer

Don’t be sissies.
Don't ignore this very important post.
Take it like brave men and answer the questions so good you can, all of your.

 

[Paul]

The rubber sheet analogy is perfect

No it isn't, it's 2 dimensional for a start.

When the acceleration due to gravity decreases by 75 %, the distance square increment will increase inversely proportional by 75 %.

If you could rewrite that in human, it would be appreciated.

This is no coincidence but rather an expression for cause/effect: The stretching of space contains a domino effect where even a sand grain will influence (stretch) the whole universe.

How does that work in your perfect rubber sheet analogy?

the formula is shown below.

http://www.science27.com/images/img_49.jpg

That's just a formula you copied from wikipedia, you have no idea what it means.

If you had read the theory, you criticize you would have know that

Ignorance, guesswork, misrepresentation and a massive sense of self-importance do not make a theory.

 

[MRC_Hans]

The rubber sheet analogy is perfect

Well, it does help some to understand.

When the acceleration due to gravity decreases by 75 %, the distance square increment will increase inversely proportional by 75 %.

This is called the square rule. It applies to all kinds of spherical force distributions, and emissions.

This is no coincidence but rather an expression for cause/effect: The stretching of space contains a domino effect where even a sand grain will influence (stretch) the whole universe.

No, it is basically the simple effect of the force being distributed over a larger area. Since that area increases with the square of the radius, it follows that the force is inversely proportional.

This shows us that although our immediate understanding of acceleration due to gravity is based on the assumption that the acceleration will diminish as the function of the distance square (r²),

It is not an assumption, it's a fact.

Hans

 

[MRC_Hans]

If you guys really want me to show how gravity and the strong force can be united don’t forget to answer these questions.

I don't really want you to do that. I have heard quite enough of your nonsense, already. I have answered all your questions, and you have ignored or misinterpreted the answers.

Why should I take the trouble to answer more questions?

If you can unite the strong force and gravity, publish in Nature or New Scientist, or some other recognized international science publication.

I don't give a damn.

Hans

 

[Paul]

Don’t be sissies

Very adult, did you have to ask your daughter for advice on that one?

If you guys really want me to show how gravity and the strong force can be united don’t forget to answer these questions;

It couldn't possibly be that the reason you refuse to show anything is that you have nothing to show.

What is a gravitational wave made of?

Spacetime

Let us say the answer of question 1 is “space”, would a gravitational wave have a certain “amount” of space?

The answer isn't 'space'

What would be the different between "that space" and space that not is a gravitional wave ?

A gravitational wave.

Where have a such gravitational waves hide it self?

It have not hid.

Have it hide it self inside matter?

No.

Try the best you can to explain how matter can “hide” - “keep” such gravity wave back (until matter explodes).

Nothing keeps a gravitational wave anywhere.

Is dark energy, really some kind of energy ?

No, it's a species of small herring.

 

[Paul]

Yes you have

No you haven't.

“1” could be; visible or invisible or only existing in your fantasy.

1+1=2 is not a fantasy, it does not require you to believe.

In that case the result is not certain, or zero.

The result is 2

It could easy invalidate that reality you would believe you just have “proven”.

Then show me.

 

[Paulhoff]

Oh well, the rope I threw in broke, they are lost.

Paul

 

[Bjarne]

No it isn't, it's 2 dimensional for a start.

It must be.
So is Newtonian gravity .
A lot of science is like that.

Paul
How does that work in your perfect rubber sheet analogy?
Hans

No, it is basically the simple effect of the force being distributed over a larger area. Since that area increases with the square of the radius, it follows that the force is inversely proportional.

If space is infinite, the motion of your little finger effects infinity.

It is not an assumption, it's a fact.

Clumsy description, now changed;
This shows us that although our understanding of acceleration due to gravity is based on the fact that the acceleration will diminish as the function of the distance square (r2), the potential of space-vacuum will diminish as a function of the radius (r) and hence it is no conflict by uniting the distance dilation with the time dilation characterizing the general relativity.

Why should I take the trouble to answer more questions?

110% as expected, you would dig you own grave, and you can smell it already.

Spacetime

Define it what is space-time made of ? - Nothing ?
Or in other words, what make space-time different one place compared to another if you forget time.
What make space-time different at your feed compared to your head?
How can the process of formation of matter possible keep back / affect space-time until matter explodes ?
Notice that 0,00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001 mm above the surface of the Earth space-time is different as at the surface.

WHAT is difference when you ignore time ?

1+1=2 is not a fantasy, it does not require you to believe.

So 1 dark galaxy + 1 more = 2 dark galaxies, even though none of them exist ?