Bjarne on: Dark Energy, only an illusion.

[MRC_Hans]

That's a lie.


Really
There are many places at the internet that proves the oppesite
For exsample this

Google translate it yourself it is danish
So now please stop you rubbish accusation Ok liar ?

So you suggest that people should search all over the net to see if you are contradicting yourself? Get real! You are in a debate HERE. What you say HERE is what counts.

Cows know that it counts what you say right here.

Hans

 

[Bjarne]

Before you make a fool of yourself again Bjarne, refresh your memory as to some of the things you actually said (in chronological order):
Nobody has ever seen dark matter nobody knows what it is. (PLEASE don’t try to convince me that it exists).

Gravity is a property of space; - it’s in fact an expression of the density of space.
You can’t separate it from for example dark matter or dark energy.

You will easy could understand that central space (encircled by matter) will be consumed / affected stronger and hence dark matter is suddenly only a naturally property of a flexible matter feeding space.

And there are no longer any logical (coherent) reason to believe in dark matter really is matter, or that dark energy (acceleration) of the Universe exists

And at the same time you can visit the dark matter sect that still haven’t and NEVER will find the EXPENSIVE evidence they believe in.

Further out in the MilkyWay the SpaceWind is much stronger, but we have only math to take us further, but first we off course must get rid of the crazy dark matter.

Dark matter must just be naturally stronger central space vacuum, compared to the peripheries weaker space vacuum, (of a extended mass).

The first fortress to fall is; dark matter, but this will only be the beginning of the catastrophe

The final kill preparations of the sick dark matter idea matter have just begun.

There is no basic contradiction in this statement compared to the basic statement today.
The basic statement was and is ; that dark matter is not matter BUT contracted space.

Before I thought that (contracted space) was naturally caused by allready exsiting matter.

I have change that view to that it was is caused by matter (+ huge speed) in a previous universe.
Therefore still NOT dark matter.

 

[MRC_Hans]

There is no basic contradiction in this statement compared to the basic statement today.
The basic statement was and is ; that dark matter is not matter BUT contracted space.

Before I thought that (contracted space) was naturally caused by allready exsiting matter.

I have change that view to that it was is caused by matter (+ huge speed) in a previous universe.
and out is still NOT dark matter.

Cows don't care what you think. Cows only bother about facts. You are entitled to your own opinions, but not to your own facts.

Hans

 

[Bjarne]

4Gm/c^2r

What does that eqaution
Why the "4"

 

[Paul]

That's a lie.

Sticking your fingers in your ears and shouting "La La La I can't hear you!" is especially foolish when the evidence you deny is in front of you.

There are many places at the internet that proves the oppesite
For exsample this

Of course, something you wrote in Danish 3 years ago somewhere else on the internet really proves that you always say the same thing about dark matter...

As long as you don't look at what you said on this forum, which was "Nobody has ever seen dark matter nobody knows what it is. (PLEASE don’t try to convince me that it exists)".

That is a statement that not only do you not know what dark matter is, you do not believe it exists. It is therefore impossible for you to claim that it is either the source of dark energy or that it is gravity.

So now please stop you rubbish accusation Ok liar ?

In order to lie, one must deliberately deceive. You might, for example, issue a false statement about your past behaviour and continue to assert it's veracity despite evidence to the contrary.

 

[Paul]

What does that eqaution
Why the "4"

A mooncalf would have a better chance of overturning physics than you.

The laziness and apparent lack of basic comprehension or computer skills is rising to comedically atrocious levels.

 

[Bjarne]

Sticking your fingers in your ears and shouting "La La La I can't hear you!" is especially foolish when the evidence you deny is in front of you.


Of course, something you wrote in Danish 3 years ago somewhere else on the internet really proves that you always say the same thing about dark matter...

As long as you don't look at what you said on this forum, which was "Nobody has ever seen dark matter nobody knows what it is. (PLEASE don’t try to convince me that it exists)".

That is a statement that not only do you not know what dark matter is, you do not believe it exists. It is therefore impossible for you to claim that it is either the source of dark energy or that it is gravity.

Yes I am only sure that me and mother cow knows that.
I am 99999,9999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999% sure also spanish cows knows that too.

Today I had a consultation with an intelligent Spanish cow, she told me, møøøøøhhhh moooohh muuuuhhh mu mø muuuu muuhhhh møøøøøhhhh moooohh .
Translated this mean; it is good you always try to get the bird perspective, this is the way cow brains also works.
Try to get the satellite perspective. Don’t worry if small details are overlooked. Hans - RC & Co can do the “lost in the bush – work”, - she said, and that was all . Øhh and she told me she would tell the most intelligent Spanish cow about the theory, normally that cow don’t talk to strangers, but let’s see.

 

[MRC_Hans]

Yes only me and mother cows knows what it is I am 99999,9999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999% sure also spanish cows knows that too.

I have an idea: Go out and spend your time with the cows. They will understand you, and they won't talk back to you (and if they do, you can easily pretend it didn't happen).

Hans

 

[Bjarne]

Sticking your fingers in your ears and shouting "La La La I can't hear you!" is especially foolish when the evidence you deny is in front of you.


Of course, something you wrote in Danish 3 years ago somewhere else on the internet really proves that you always say the same thing about dark matter...

As long as you don't look at what you said on this forum, which was "Nobody has ever seen dark matter nobody knows what it is. (PLEASE don’t try to convince me that it exists)".

That is a statement that not only do you not know what dark matter is, you do not believe it exists. It is therefore impossible for you to claim that it is either the source of dark energy or that it is gravity.

Yes I am sure that only I (and mother cow know this) .But I am 99999.999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999% sure also spanish cows knows that too.

 

[Bjarne]

I have an idea: Go out and spend your time with the cows. They will understand you, and they won't talk back to you (and if they do, you can easily pretend it didn't happen).

Hans

Good idea then you & Co ( not : & Cow) can continue to get lost in bush details.

 

[Paul]

Yes I am only sure that me and mother cow knows that.

If you admit you lied, and you must do because you said it twice, why all the juvenile behaviour?

 

[Bjarne]

If you admit you lied, and you must do because you said it twice, why all the juvenile behaviour?

I can only admit you must have misunderstood something, But I do not know what.

 

[MRC_Hans]

I can only admit you must have misunderstood something, But I do not know what.

"Det har jeg aldrig sagt!" - Erhard Jakobsen (1917-2002) Danish politician.

(= "I never said that!")

Hans

 

[Bjarne]

Double

 

[Paulhoff]

WHY?

STOP FEEDING HIM!

Paul

 

[Bjarne]

The cause of the Time Dilation (due to gravity) is distance deformation.

If distances not were deformed equal proportional with time there would not be any time dilation.

Dilation and Distance deformation (in GR) are always equal proportional to each other.

I believe Albert Einstein did avoid paying enough attention to the fact that time and distance deformation must be equal proportional.
If he have done he must have realized that he not had solved the anomalous perihelion precession of Mercury.

This would certainly have made it much more difficult to get attention to his theories.

I am not saying that SR is completely wrong but only that it not is sure that we have understood how much light really bends due to gravity, and that it is not understood how much space curves near the sun... Further experiment that matter is prepared. - Many do not agree with this parts of SR.

The cause of anomalous perihelion precession of Mercury as well as the cause of Ice ages (Milankovic) is without doubt that RAM also applies by constant speed, like shown here http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showpost.php?p=6935655&postcount=3180

Dilation and Distance deformation

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravitational_time_dilation

Time in the orbit of the Earth is 9.32*10⁹ slower as a place infinity far away.

The reason for this is that the sun is absorbing space.
This is causing space to stretch towards the sun, and this simply mean that not only space but also a meter stick is pulled / stretched longer as it would have been without the present of the Sun's gravity.

This is how to read the time dilation factor that is the exact same as the distances stretch factor.

The meter stick is therefore 9.32*10⁹ longer in our reference frame, (by the earth) which mean that the distance to the Sun is shorter now as it would be if the Sun did not existed.

We can calculate that shorter distance as; > 158 million Km * 9.32*10⁹ meter = 1472,56 Meter.

If the Sun would disappear a “gravity wave” would push the Earth that distance further away from the Sun.

But wait a moment, this is an illusion, in reality the Earth would not move, - all what would happen is; - that because of the stretch of space towards the Sun, - or in other words; - the tension of space, - towards the Sun, - (suddenly) would be released, this would mean that space would (just) get back to a tension free state (if nothing else act on it), - and this simply mean that the meter stick here by us would shrink 9.32*10⁹ meter / per meter.

Because of the meter stick now suddenly is shorter, (after the lost of the Sun) - the distance to the sun is longer too, and exactly > 1472,56 Meter .

And it gets worse; not only is the meter stick is now relative shorter, but also the Earth is smaller. (also here I have change my mind)...

This is exactly what happens on the big scale too. The expanding Universe is; an optical illusion.

It looks likethe expansion of the Universe is accelerating, but the fact is that this is build on;
That astronomic objects “look like” these are moving (accelerating) faster away from us.
The fact is objects shrinks when the tension of background gravity is released, and the meter stick will shorten. We (the earth) do not move anywhere.

We believe that EM waves get redshifted while these travels , - this is not what happen (and a conflict with science itself since photon energy cannot be lost) .

The cause of cosmological redshift is that we are living in a strong field of gravity.

90% of that gravity origin from the previous Universe.

A part pf this “old gravity” has since the BB gradually been converted to expanding space, and hence gravity gradually “lost”, -this process will continue until there is no more so-called dark matter.

Exactly like distanced are getting shorter when our solar system would lose it's gravity, - the same happens due to that the Universe is losing gravity, whereby; distances shortening and have done so since the BigBang.

Because distances are shortening by the lost of gravity, the distances in the EM specters are shortening too, - this is the cause of that we now and also in the further will get EM specter that is gradually more blue shifted….

So there are no changes from previous blueshift to redshift over time...
Shorter distances today also applies for the EM specter wave lengths, -so simple is that.

Maybe the size of the Universe was not just a ”dot” but much bigger.
Maybe the "size" was always the same, but only the size of the meter stick was changing, sometimes streching and sometimes shortening.
Maybe there was even series of small Bigbang.
I think we already have some ideas where the possible breaking point is that causes gravity/nuclear explosions (knowledge from Supernova).
Hence it should be possible to calculate much more regarding how the Universe was 13,7 billion years ago. .

 

[Reality Check]

What does that eqaution
Why the "4"

Read the link: http://www.lightandmatter.com/html_b...tml#Section6.2
The weak field approximation gives the following for the deflection of light:

6.2.7 Deflection of light
...
4Gm/c^2r

which works for the Sun since m/r << 1.

 

[ferd burfle]

Don’t worry if small details are overlooked. Hans - RC & Co can do the “lost in the bush – work”, - she said, and that was all .

Bjarne, the very idea of you being the "big idea" guy and Hans and RC and others doing the detail work for you would be hilarious if it wasn't so incredibly arrogant and insulting. Your ignorant, ineducable buffoonery used to be amusing but i won't feed your narcissism any longer, even as a lurker.

Welcome to ignore.

ferd

 

[Bjarne]

Bjarne, the very idea of you being the "big idea" guy and Hans and RC and others doing the detail work for you would be hilarious if it wasn't so incredibly arrogant and insulting. Your ignorant, ineducable buffoonery used to be amusing but i won't feed your narcissism any longer, even as a lurker.

Welcome to ignore.

ferd

Everybody could have chosen to participate to solve great problems we really have. Like some adult people sometimes does. .
But this first at all requires willingness to admit we have some understanding problems with the regards to the picture of the Universe, (and not the concrete omniscience attitude we have seen so far) .

• We have not the slightest idea whether we are orbiting the Universe or not.
• We have not the slightest idea whether we are accelerating around the COG of the Universe.
• We have not the slightest idea whether dark energy one day would be out of breath
• We have not the slightest idea about what dark matter really is (all attemps to detect it has failed) ..
• We have not the slightest idea about what dark energy really is ..
• We have not the slightest idea whether the nature dark matter and dark energy are connected..
• We have not the slightest idea whether the nature dark matter, dark energy and gravity; is a unity.
• We have not the slightest idea what a gravity wave really is, at least not something that can be explained with words. .(all attemps to detect it has failed) ...
• We have not the slightest idea why a Bigbang really happen.
• Dark Energy and Dark matter is more as 97 % of the Universe.
  Gravity/Matter is the rest 3 %. . We have not finally solved what gravity/matter really is.
  So the fact seen from a cow (that not is arrogant) is that humans in fact do know NOTHING about 97 % of the Universe and almost nothing about the last 3%.

I represent a theory that in fact only is modifying a expression no one really fully understand, - like that; > “stretching” is better than “curvature”. .

THIS is all what do, and then off course trying to see how will the Universe now look like ?

The result is that this is enough to that the Universe suddenly almost automatically become 100% coherent and all the big mysteries disappears likes was these only moisture under the Sun.

Everyone in this thread could (and still can) contribute to bring coherent to the completely incoherent picture of the Universe, there are still serveral details to improve.

But what we in fact see is that people just lean back and denies everything I say, and many times even common knowledge, (in these cases where common knowledge is believed to have been invented by me) .

• no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no,
• I am a uneducated fool don’t know what I speak about
• looooooonggg list to prove how stupid I am , and repeated hundred of times, so that no one can doubt that I am the stupid one.
• crackpot “raplende” (danish for mad), idiotic……..

Now tell me , who is really negative, intolerant, and arrogant in this thread; me ? mother cow ? or yourself ?

Even if I spend the next 8 billion years at the finest Universe in the world to educate myself, - any not arrogant, open minded, tolerant, cow - would agree, - that this certainly not would could lead to a better holistic coherent picture of the Universe as the one presented in this thread. (But I am afraid much worse).

Now we have for the first time a coherent picture of the Universe based on simple down to earth common knowledge that can explains how the big question in the Universe are connected and also what these really are.

There are no dark this and that, - the only darkness is when matter fixated humans like you continue to close your eyes for; - simplicity.

And when for example arrogant people continues to make looooongg list to prove how big and stupid a uneducated confused complete idiot I am…. blab la blab la bla, - to avoid a equivalence serious discussion…

So the fact is that there are serveral people here that have asked for supports from intelligent cows.

 

[MRC_Hans]

Everybody could have chosen to participate to solve great problems we really have. Like some adult people sometimes does. .
But this first at all requires willingness to admit we have some understanding problems with the regards to the picture of the Universe, (and not the concrete omniscience attitude we have seen so far) .

• We have not the slightest idea whether we are orbiting the Universe or not.
• We have not the slightest idea whether we are accelerating around the COG of the Universe.
• We have not the slightest idea whether dark energy one day would be out of breath
• We have not the slightest idea about what dark matter really is (all attemps to detect it has failed) ..
• We have not the slightest idea about what dark energy really is ..
• We have not the slightest idea whether the nature dark matter and dark energy are connected..
• We have not the slightest idea whether the nature dark matter, dark energy and gravity; is a unity.
• We have not the slightest idea what a gravity wave really is, at least not something that can be explained with words. .(all attemps to detect it has failed) ...
• We have not the slightest idea why a Bigbang really happen.
• Dark Energy and Dark matter is more as 97 % of the Universe.
  Gravity/Matter is the rest 3 %. . We have not finally solved what gravity/matter really is.
  So the fact seen from a cow (that not is arrogant) is that humans in fact do know NOTHING about 97 % of the Universe and almost nothing about the last 3%.

Note: 'We' is here taken to mean Bjarne and cows.
We humans know most of the above and have pretty coherent ideas about the rest.

I represent a theory that in fact only is modifying a expression no one really fully understand, - like that; > “stretching” is better than “curvature”. .

THIS is all what do, and then off course trying to see how will the Universe now look like ?

Translation: Bjarne constructs a completely imaginary universe.

The result is that this is enough to that the Universe suddenly almost automatically become 100% coherent and all the big mysteries disappears likes was these only moisture under the Sun.

Unfortunately, it is 100% fiction. And unfortunately it obviously does not apply to the real world.

Everyone in this thread could (and still can) contribute to bring coherent to the completely incoherent picture of the Universe, there are still serveral details to improve.

But what we in fact see is that people just lean back and denies everything I say, and many times even common knowledge, (in these cases where common knowledge is believed to have been invented by me) .

Because even when you cite common knowledge, you misunderstand and misinterpret it. In fact I have to say that few people are so consistently wrong as you are.

Now tell me , who is really negative, intolerant, and arrogant in this thread; me ? mother cow ? or yourself ?

You.

Even if I spend the next 8 billion years at the finest Universe in the world to educate myself, - any not arrogant, open minded, tolerant, cow - would agree, - that this certainly not would could lead to a better holistic coherent picture of the Universe as the one presented in this thread. (But I am afraid much worse).

This is called megalomania.

Now we have for the first time a coherent picture of the Universe based on simple down to earth common knowledge that can explains how the big question in the Universe are connected and also what these really are.

No, it is not the first time some dunce has thought he had the answer to everything. As already mentioned, we have at least 3 of your kind active on this forum, just now. And it won't be the last time.

So the fact is that there are serveral people here that have asked for supports from intelligent cows.

That would probably be an improvement over you, yes.

Hans