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Bill Cosby's 2004 "Rant" against low-class blacks

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And I don't mean "poor." FWIW to discuss:

Can't Blame White People
by Bill Cosby


They're standing on the corner and they can't speak English.

I can't even talk the way these people talk:
Why you ain't, Where you is, What he drive, Where he stay, Where he work,
Who you be...

And I blamed the kid until I heard the mother talk.
And then I heard the father talk.
Everybody knows it's important to speak English...except these knuckleheads.
Mushmouth is what they speak!?
You can't be a doctor with that kind of crap coming out of your mouth.
In fact you will never get any kind of job making a decent living.

People marched and were hit in the face with rocks to get an education,
and now we've got these knuckleheads throwing that all away??

The lower economic people are not holding up their end in this deal.
These people are not parenting.
They are buying things for kids. $500 sneakers for what?
And they won't spend $200 for Hooked on Phonics.

I am talking about these people who cry when their son is standing there in an orange suit.

Where were you when he was 2?
Where were you when he was 12?
Where were you when he was 18?
And, how come you didn't know that he had a pistol?

And where is the father?
Or who is his father?

People putting their clothes on backward:
Isn't that a sign of something gone wrong?
People with their hats on backward,
pants down around the crack,
isn't that a sign of something?
They're walking around with their nasty underwear showing, and holding onto their pants to keep them from falling to the ground!
Or are you waiting for Jesus to pull his pants up?

Isn't it a sign of something when she has her dress all the way up to her panty line, and got all types of needle piercings going through her body?

What part of Africa did this come from?

We are not Africans. Those people are not Africans; they don't know a thing about Africa.
With names like Shaniqua, Taliqua and Mohammed and all of that crap, and all of them are in jail.

Brown or black versus the Board of Education
is no longer the white person's problem.

We have got to take the neighborhood back.

People used to be ashamed.

Today a woman has eight children with eight different 'husbands' -- or men or whatever you call them now.

We have millionaire football players who cannot read.
We have million-dollar basketball players who can't write two
paragraphs.

We as black folks have to do a better job.

Someone working at Wal-Mart with seven kids saying...you are hurting us.
We have to start holding each other to a higher standard.

We cannot blame the white people any longer.
It is not for media or anyone of this time anymore to say whether I'm right or wrong. It is time, ladies and gentlemen, to look at the numbers.

Fifty percent of our children are dropping out of high school.
Sixty percent of the incarcerated males happen to be illiterate.
There's a correlation.

Tell the media to stop asking me what I think about people who don't believe what I'm saying or feel that I'm too harsh or feel that I'm just running my mouth because I'm old.

Seventy percent of the teenagers pregnant happen to be African American girls.

Don't ask me to soften my message.


Bill Cosby
 
That's not the whole speech. You must of removed a lot because the original speech is much longer. The speech at the NAACP's Gala Commemorating the 50th Anniversary of Brown v. Board of Education. It was dubbed the "Pound cake speech" by reporters due it's mention in the speech.

The original & full speech can be found here...

http://www.americanrhetoric.com/speeches/billcosbypoundcakespeech.htm


For the record, I agree with most of what Cosby said.
 
Anyone else remember way back when 'Eddie Murphy' was the bad guy and 'Bill Cosby' was the good guy?

And now, they have reversed these roles.

Murphy is doing children's movies and Cosby is having to defend his language.

Strange tidings indeed!
 
Murphy is doing children's movies and Cosby is having to defend his language.

Strange tidings indeed!
Murphy has children and Cosby got old.


(Which isn't to say that I don't agree with much Cosby had to say in what I read above, he's just much more grouchy.)
 
According to the Center for American Progress:

Young low-income and minority children are more likely to start school without having gained important school readiness skills, such as recognizing letters and counting...By the fourth grade, low-income students read about three grade levels behind non-poor students.


That's right, by 4th grade, on average, poor children are already 3 years behind in reading! Start here. Educate them young. Don't depend on their parents to make sure it happens. It'll make a difference to us all.
 
Cosby is having to defend his language.
Actually he's made a point of being anything but defensive on this. He's just doing what somebody should have done DECADES ago, ie not being afraid to speak the truth just because it's so politically incorrect or upsets the hypersensitive "brotherhood" and/or assorted bleeding heart apologists. Unfortunately, it had to come from a black person too, since any white person saying any of this would be instantly roasted alive for being "racist."

Sadly, I think he's spitting into the wind...but to say I applaud the effort anyway is a gross understatement.
 
Anyone else remember way back when 'Eddie Murphy' was the bad guy and 'Bill Cosby' was the good guy?

And now, they have reversed these roles.

Murphy is doing children's movies and Cosby is having to defend his language.

Strange tidings indeed!

I don't know, Murphy is getting heat for his latest movie.
 
According to the Center for American Progress:




That's right, by 4th grade, on average, poor children are already 3 years behind in reading! Start here. Educate them young. Don't depend on their parents to make sure it happens. It'll make a difference to us all.
My wife is writing her dissertation for her PhD in Early Childhood Education. As an assistant to her for the administrative matters and in helping proofread, I have picked up some interesting and shocking tidbits.

One is that a person's reading ability is determined by the time they enter first grade. Children who read poorly in first grade do not catch up to their peers, ever, regardless of efforts at remediation.

Read to your children, parents. Early and often.
 
My wife is writing her dissertation for her PhD in Early Childhood Education. As an assistant to her for the administrative matters and in helping proofread, I have picked up some interesting and shocking tidbits.

One is that a person's reading ability is determined by the time they enter first grade. Children who read poorly in first grade do not catch up to their peers, ever, regardless of efforts at remediation.

Read to your children, parents. Early and often.

Wrong. I was reading very poorly for many years from say first through 6 grade I was much below grade level, then in about a year and a half I went from being significantly behind in reading to significantly ahead in reading.

Of course I did like being read to the whole time, but was not able to read myself.

My uncle also was unable to read at 3 or 4th grade and his teacher said he would never graduate from high school. His phd in ecconomics would seem to disagree with that assessment.
 
Wrong. I was reading very poorly for many years from say first through 6 grade I was much below grade level, then in about a year and a half I went from being significantly behind in reading to significantly ahead in reading.

Of course I did like being read to the whole time, but was not able to read myself.

My uncle also was unable to read at 3 or 4th grade and his teacher said he would never graduate from high school. His phd in ecconomics would seem to disagree with that assessment.


I also am dubious of this claim based on my own anecdote. I went into first grade not reading a word. Now, what happens after day 1 in first grade matters a lot.

The value of early education programs, like Head Start, shouldn't be discounted though -- particularly as it affects the nutrition of poor kids, and may give them a leg up that they'll need due to poor re-inforcement at home.
 
Can't Blame White People by Bill Cosby
Summarized by Upchurch

Parents who don't take an interest in educating their children are like school in summertime.​
 
I also am dubious of this claim based on my own anecdote. I went into first grade not reading a word. Now, what happens after day 1 in first grade matters a lot.

The value of early education programs, like Head Start, shouldn't be discounted though -- particularly as it affects the nutrition of poor kids, and may give them a leg up that they'll need due to poor re-inforcement at home.
I will rise to my own defense in magnificent fashion with two retorts:

1. I'm not the PhD candidate.

2. An anecdote or two against does not disprove the general claim. Especially when the anecdotes come from the JREF population which I wager is a bit of a self-selecting exceptional group.
 
I also am dubious of this claim based on my own anecdote. I went into first grade not reading a word. Now, what happens after day 1 in first grade matters a lot.

The value of early education programs, like Head Start, shouldn't be discounted though -- particularly as it affects the nutrition of poor kids, and may give them a leg up that they'll need due to poor re-inforcement at home.

I am not agrueing against the value of say reading to kids, but I was simply not ready of being a real reader until about 7th grade. Before that words did not look like words, but strings of letters so I had to work them each out individualy.
 
I will rise to my own defense in magnificent fashion with two retorts:

1. I'm not the PhD candidate.

2. An anecdote or two against does not disprove the general claim. Especially when the anecdotes come from the JREF population which I wager is a bit of a self-selecting exceptional group.

How strong is the correlation between being a poor reader in first grade and being a poor reader in high school? It certainly not 100% as we show that it is simply not universaly true.
 
Sigh. I suppose I can ask for the actual studies.

But I don't WANT to earn the PhD myself!
 
According to the Center for American Progress:




That's right, by 4th grade, on average, poor children are already 3 years behind in reading! Start here. Educate them young. Don't depend on their parents to make sure it happens. It'll make a difference to us all.

C'mon, hgc - you KNOW no child has been left behind. ;)
 

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