Bigfooters covered by Vanity Fair Magazine

[William Parcher]

Here's a direct link to the show:

http://www.ucpress.edu/podcast/?file=11135

I think it's fantastic that talented writers are getting into Bigfootery and examining it as a sub-culture and Bigfoot as a social construct. Until we have something meaningful to look at, that's all it is to me.

I just listened. McLeod thinks like I do. I felt a chill when he said that the footprints are folk art, because on May 29 I said that the collection of Freeman casts "remind me of 'outsider' or 'folk' art". Also, the interviewer asked if Bigfootery was (is) essentially performance art. I've said the same thing numerous times here and used that exact term. I think I may disagree with McLeod's off-the-cuff categories of Bigfooters - the money guys, the hoaxers, and the true believers. Not that one cannot label folks in that way, but that it misses the subtle adaptability and talents which make up performances in performance art (role playing) and that one should not use the categories declared by the Bigfooters but instead to get serious about analyzing it as genuine performance art. If you put personalities into only those three boxes, you have actually ignored what performance art allows for. Tony Soprano is a ruthless mob boss, but James Gandolfini has never murdered anyone.

 

[makaya325]

One of the reasons why missing people are hard to find is because there's alot of us. Also you pretty much shot yourself in the foot, if it's a certain biological impossibility for a population of them to go undetected. Then where is the evidence of that population?

What if there was less bigfoot? You would cut the fraction of finding it so small.

 

[Drewbot]

http://www.texasbigfoot.org/index.php/news/news/48-news/167

Bob Gimlin has been added as a guest.

I wonder if Vanity Fair is invited back.

 

[LONGTABBER PE]

http://www.texasbigfoot.org/index.php/news/news/48-news/167

Bob Gimlin has been added as a guest.

I wonder if Vanity Fair is invited back.

I wonder if BG is going to be asked any of the hard questions- I believe the answer to both will be no

 

[rockinkt]

I wonder if BG is going to be asked any of the hard questions- I believe the answer to both will be no

Indubitably

 

[WGBH]

I doubt he will be taking questions. Just making an appearance and visiting friends. He has heard all the questions anyway.

 

[LONGTABBER PE]

I doubt he will be taking questions. Just making an appearance and visiting friends. He has heard all the questions anyway.

Honestly John, he might have heard them- my question is the answers

 

[Drewbot]

The Texas Conference was held this weekend in Tyler TX. Here is an article about the conference. http://www.tylerpaper.com/article/20090927/NEWS08/909270360

Note: Correct me if I'm wrong, but did Bob Gimlin change his story AGAIN???!?!!

"I was pretty much a skeptic at the time," he said. "We were hoping to see one but didn't think we'd see one. Some people claim it was fake, that it was a man wearing a suit. It's been hashed out for 42 years."


Gimlin said he was frightened by the creature that's estimated to be about 7-4 and weighed between 500 and 800 pounds.


"My heart was jumping up and down inside my body," he said. "When you see something that's nearly 8 feet tall covered with hair and is not supposed to exist, it makes you pretty scared."


He added, "I know it was real. This is America, where you can have whatever thought you want and say what you think."

 

[rockinkt]

The Texas Conference was held this weekend in Tyler TX. Here is an article about the conference. http://www.tylerpaper.com/article/20090927/NEWS08/909270360

Note: Correct me if I'm wrong, but did Bob Gimlin change his story AGAIN???!?!!

Why worry about something as mundane as that?
He will change it again.

That is the trouble with liars - they have to have good memories - and he either doesn't have one - or doesn't care because he knows he has the rubes believing him no matter what.

BTW - this quote attributed to him is a real tip-off to those well schooled in detecting deception:
"I know it was real. This is America, where you can have whatever thought you want and say what you think."

 

[Drewbot]

BTW - this quote attributed to him is a real tip-off to those well schooled in detecting deception:
"I know it was real. This is America, where you can have whatever thought you want and say what you think."

For those of us Un-schooled in detecting deception, why is it a Tip-off?

 

[rockinkt]

For those of us Un-schooled in detecting deception, why is it a Tip-off?

The use of a statement calculated to give moral authority to what the person is saying is a big tip-off - especially if it is something that is designed to invoke derision on those who disagree. In this case - Bob is using the Constitutional of the US to shield his claims from question or negative comment.

A truthful person rarely uses such devices in an attempt to convince the listener of what they are claiming because it is totally irrelevant.

A person referring continuously to a deity or family member to show sincerity is also a big red flag; e.g. "As God is my witness" or " I swear on my ___ (mother, child's head, dead grandmother's grave", etc).
Again - this is just another shielding/deflecting tactic because the attempt is show that one is questioning the person's religious beliefs or love for his family members if they question his story.

 

[Skeptical Greg]

Gimlin said he was frightened by the creature that's estimated to be about 7-4 and weighed between 500 and 800 pounds.

Sounds like he's read the Munns report...

Gotta get those stories straight boys ....

 

[RayG]

Gimlin said he was frightened by the creature that's estimated to be about 7-4 and weighed between 500 and 800 pounds."My heart was jumping up and down inside my body," he said. "When you see something that's nearly 8 feet tall covered with hair and is not supposed to exist, it makes you pretty scared."

Yet not frightened/scared enough that it prevented him from going back all by his lonesome to cover footprints with bark, even though an even bigger squatch was thought to be in the area.

RayG

 

[makaya325]

Yet not frightened/scared enough that it prevented him from going back all by his lonesome to cover footprints with bark, even though an even bigger squatch was thought to be in the area.

RayG

Hey, Just because he was scared, does not mean he should not have went to cover the tracks. Perhaps Covering tracks will deceive the Male Bigfoot

 

[GT/CS]

Yet not frightened/scared enough that it prevented him from going back all by his lonesome to cover footprints with bark, even though an even bigger squatch was thought to be in the area.

RayG

And they left the horses tied up at the camp while they took the truck into town. Weren't the horses deathly afraid of Patty?

 

[makaya325]

And they left the horses tied up at the camp while they took the truck into town. Weren't the horses deathly afraid of Patty?

Lets see: Two 1000 plus lbs strong quadrupeds, each capable of breaking loose in dangerous situations, capable of traveling 40 mph

vs

A slow moving, clumsy, gentle Hairy Ape.

Come on!

 

[LTC8K6]

Bigfoot is almost universally described as very fast, isn't it, mak?

 

[RayG]

Hey, Just because he was scared, does not mean he should not have went to cover the tracks. Perhaps Covering tracks will deceive the Male Bigfoot

Kinda hard to argue with Maklogic. Maybe I need some Makfries with it.

RayG

 

[makaya325]

Bigfoot is almost universally described as very fast, isn't it, mak?

No. Few reports mention a high speed, but this can be due to high levels of fear in a fight or flight situation, aka adrenaline rush

 

[makaya325]

Kinda hard to argue with Maklogic. Maybe I need some Makfries with it.

RayG

It was merely a SUGGESTION. I do not care that you do not buy it, but your skepticism concerning the film backround does not make it so. This can be said for both sides