Bigfooters covered by Vanity Fair Magazine

Great find, WP - thanks. I just shared this link over on the BFF to, you know, point out that the claims of editorial bias against bigfoot papers are 100% supported by the editors of our top journals.
 
Henry Gee fails to mention why the large mammals he lists are not good analogues of Bigfoot. He points out that we should keep an open mind - but for what? Does he mean that if a Bigfoot body or body part is brought forward we should all say "let's check it out" instead of "throw it away before anybody examines it"? Is that what he means by open mind?

So far, no hard evidence for yetis (say) has emerged. But in a world that hosts H. floresiensis and the saola, the kouprey and the red gazelle, one should keep an open mind.
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Here is the important non-parallel. Those three large mammals are found in remote areas with primitive people. Those people had fairly regular access to the animals and in some cases actually ate them and kept body parts. Some are endangered because the primitive people overexploit(ed) them for food. The analogy breaks down because those primitive people are not aware and/or do not care that the rest of the world would have very keen interest in such a creature. They do not know of scientific cataloging and what is not already known. They may not even have access to the scientists who are interested in such things. In short, they could have brought forth proof of those large mammals a long long time ago if they were not primitive third-world people living in remote places.

There is no parallel for that in North America for the Bigfoot. Even the most uneducated backwoods hillbilly knows that a walking giant hairy ape is not an everyday thing and that the rest of the world (who could make you wildly wealthy) doesn't care about that creature. This could be said for people going all the way back to the first "white" explorers and colonists many centuries ago. All of them would have immediately understood the extraordinary significance of a Bigfoot creature. Access to people who could do something important with a body or body part was not difficult. The people living amongst the saola, kouprey and red gazelle would be expected to only say "whatever" or "mmm dinner" when they put their hands on these creatures. Certainly not so for the Bigfoot.
 
Good points, Parcher!

And with regard to H. floriensis, the analogy also breaks down, because even if they were a separate species of genus Homo -- and there is recent controversy that they were simply iodine-deficient H. sapiens* -- they existed some 40,000 years ago on a single tiny island, and so are not contemporary, living, as-yet-undiscovered population of primates inhabiting stretches of a civilized continent, every square mile of which is photographed by satellite and combed over by hunters, wildlife enthusiasts, park rangers, biologists, etc.


*"This is consistent with recent hypothyroid endemic cretinism throughout Indonesia, including the nearby island of Bali," Professor Oxnard said. --http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/09/100928025514.htm?sms_ss=twitter
 
This is another dagger in the idea that this type of discovery equals hope that Bigfoot will be discovered.

1. These were in remote mountain areas in Jungles, Bigfoot exists and frequents semi-rural areas of the United States (trailer parks, rest areas, campgrounds, driveways, highways), But can't be classified.

2. The most remote areas of the United States are frequented by tourists, travelers and naturalists. The MDF footage was filmed in a remote area of the Cascades, and nearly 100 people witnessed it. The idea that a GIANT beast is still undiscovered by science, in the United States does not equate to large mammals existing in the jungle, and being utilized by native populations there.
 
Vortigern99 said:
Good points, Parcher!

And with regard to H. floriensis, the analogy also breaks down, because even if they were a separate species of genus Homo -- and there is recent controversy that they were simply iodine-deficient H. sapiens* -- they existed some 40,000 years ago on a single tiny island, and so are not contemporary, living, as-yet-undiscovered population of primates inhabiting stretches of a civilized continent, every square mile of which is photographed by satellite and combed over by hunters, wildlife enthusiasts, park rangers, biologists, etc.


*"This is consistent with recent hypothyroid endemic cretinism throughout Indonesia, including the nearby island of Bali," Professor Oxnard said. --http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/09/100928025514.htm?sms_ss=twitter
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yes,
The earliest Alpine mountain climbers sometimes came upon whole villages of cretins.
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but:
I don't understand how people on a small island could become iodine deficient. It makes NO sense. There are other sorts of thyroid deficiency, but endemic cretinism means iodine deficiency, and that just can't happen when you eat seafood.
If anyone has read more deeply into this, I'd like to hear about it.
 
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parnassus said:
I don't understand how people on a small island could become iodine deficient. It makes NO sense. There are other sorts of thyroid deficiency, but endemic cretinism means iodine deficiency, and that just can't happen when you eat seafood.
If anyone has read more deeply into this, I'd like to hear about it.
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From what I can tell, eating Cassava can create an iodine deficiency.
http://www.mediaglobal.org/article/...k-to-iodine-deficiency-requires-further-study

Cassava is used on Flores
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flores
In addition to tourism, the main economic activities on Flores are agriculture, fishing and seaweed production. The primary food crops being grown on Flores are rice, maize, sweet potato and cassava, while the main cash crops are coffee, coconut, candle nut and cashew.[5] Flores is one of the newest origins for Indonesian coffee. Previously, most Arabica coffee (Coffea arabica) from Flores was blended with other origins. Now, demand is growing for this coffee because of its heavy body and sweet chocolate, floral and woody notes.[6]
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Oh yeah, Gee is way off the mark with the analogy. It's actually pretty shocking that he's so clueless about it. But 'footers would care not about the logical, rational explanation of what is wrong with Gee's position. Instead, I'd simply be satisfied to take his comments and face value and use them to beat back this nonsense of editorial bias that always gets brought up when you ask a simple question like "Has any of this been published?" Heck, I'm considering writing up a bigfoot manuscript just to see if I can get a pub in Nature!
 
Bigfooters covered by Vanity Fair Magazine







Which is good, becasue they look awful nude!!!
 
yeah, Shrike, bigfoot stuff and Christian stuff, or even teaparty stuff will sell better than anything you've ever written. Searching for truth is for suckers.
 
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William Parcher said:
It seems that cassava was not on Flores when the these hobbit fossils were living beings. It originated in Brazil and was domesticated not more than 10,000 years ago. Link. Did I miss something?
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Perhaps cassava as we know it now wasnt. but there are other fruits that contain cyanide, also, we dont know if the flores people had another reason why they couldnt process cyanide or iodine. it was just an idea for Parn to follow up on. Many possibilities, which any could have led to cretinism
 
That's a funny program. He sure does use a lot of creative editing. The percentage of obese Bigfooters is amazing. I wonder of there is some correlation between having a huge belly and believing in Bigfoot.
 
One of the best parts, is when a footer says, 'there aren't manh people going out in the woods looking for them', and the camera cuts to a shot 80 Footerz walking into the woods. Money!
 
Indeed good stuff. There are a lot of capacious guts in that crowd. It looks like a Taft family reunion. Are these the folks I've been assured could hike circles around me in the field while I exercise my glutes from behind my desk?
 
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