Drew - Thanks, but I really didn't spend any money. One Halloween I spent $89 on an adult Wookie suit. It was just a cheap hair suit that didn't even have a zipper. It tied in the back like any kiddy costume. I spent $20 bucks on a TOR mask and then used some foam, rubber and paint I had in the garage to dress it up. I was never trying to make an imitation of Patty, I just wanted a Bigfoot dummy for Halloween decorations that wasn't bald.
After speaking with the people at BFF I did a few tests. It took only a few hours and cost nothing except for the jar of latex I purchased. I already had some liquid latex and plaster in the garage. Just some experiments to see how hard it would be to build a Patty. Turns out, it's not all that hard.
I've never made a creature effect in my life and I am as clueless as anyone else. My job is as a stunt coordinator/second unit director. I work with (and have worn) creature suits of the type being discussed. I was asked about Patty after I tried to explain that the BBC program was a recreation of the WAY the film was shot; no one ever said they were building a "Patty" imitation. That's what started all this for me.
I worked with JOHN VULICH and he told me that he simply rented them a red ape suit he had hanging in the shop. They liked the idea that it was just a red ape with hand-like feet. Who would have guessed that people would post pics of the red ape suit as if that were "Hollywood's attempt to imitate Patty" or something? That's too stupid to even suggest - yet it's just what happened. An example of the infamous out-of-context thought process that's so common.
Sweaty Yeti - Which brings me back to your drawing on my leg as if that makes Patty not have padding in her leg. That ISN'T the same pad that you see me walking in. That was the very first pad I made. I too thought that I should make the thigh line further back and you should be able to see that I did just that. As I walk you can see the "incredible hamstring line" is exactly as it is with Patty. I posted that indoor pic of the first pad because I thought you could see the lines clearer and it would help you. Imagine how shocked I am to see that you are taking that out of context (Just kidding - I'm not shocked at all).
I made the bottom and top in two colors. I did that to try to show you the lines to look for in Patty. You can make the thigh pad wrap completely around the leg (as it is in the Gorn) or you can make the line disappear altogether (as I did in another pic I showed you in which I was
trying to show you the KNEE CAP - so please don't draw on the hamstring and ask where the line is. Look at the pics of me walking for that effect).
Taking things out of context seems to be the staple technique in Bigfootery. It's done by Green and Meldrum regarding footprints and suits. It's done all the time by others. It's too bad that desperation has set in this way. It makes it difficult to take anything seriously.
Yes, this one is where Patty's thigh pad line is and it moves
exactly the same way. Now please don't start posting about the hair
I've outlined the pads and knee cap for you. Watch Patty closely and see if you can spot it.
The Gorn leg is designed to show lines further around the back of the leg. Which is superior, out-of-focus Patty or in-focus Gorn? If he had hair would his hamstring be better or worse? What if he came from another planet or dimension, would he still not be as good as Patty?
Since Patty's thigh pads were meant to be worn by a shorter person walking in a squat position we unfortunately can plainly see the top line of the pad encircling the leg and the suit-leg skin stretching from the pad line to go under the upper portion of the suit. Dead give-a-way.
Study the above photo well. You can even see the pad in the elbow that was typical of these suits.
Here's McClarin walking with Bob H. again. Heironimus is a hair under 6' with about 5 or 6" of helmet-head. This is more accurate than what Green has shown you.
No insult intended to anyone. Just trying to post some things I've learned.
I'd love to post larger video, but the forum doesn't seem to allow that. Like I said before, in the coming year I'll be getting together with a friend who inherited a bunch of suits from the guys who made Patty. I want to see what he has and what I can learn about the construction. After that maybe I'll build a Patty of some sort for you. It only takes a day.
Yet I already know that if he should happen to have a piece of Patty tucked away no one will believe it's her. In fact, if they ever saw Patty in crystal clarity they'd be shocked at what she looks like versus what they IMAGINE she looks like.
Roger and Al did this one just right.
